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SAMOAN MYTHS & LEGENDS

Stories from the Past...............

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11/1/2001

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2:49:54 AM

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THE STORY OF SAUMAEAFE
SAUMAEAFE IS A FEMALE AITU whose home village is Saleimoa. She is half human and half demon. Her father Sami lived in Alamutu, Saleimoa. Her mother was an aitu with whom Sami had intercourse, mistaking her for a human being because of her beauty.
Not everyone in Saleimoa is familiar with Saumaeafe’s appearance. She is a lady of extraordinary beauty. She has pretty breasts and fine hair. However, when she is angry she turns quite ugly. She then looks like a wrinkled old woman with coarse hair. If she wants to tempt a young man to become her husband, she appears in her most pleasing form, with voluptuous breasts and yellowish brown hair. Should the young man resist, she kills him.
Saumaeafe pursues all the handsome young males in Samoa and is constantly in search of new conquests from Falealupo, at the far end of Savaii, to Tutuila. She is jealous of all the virgins and if a chief’s son should court one, she kills her.
A young man becomes aware of her presence when he suddenly awakens from his sleep. He sits up and looks in vain for the person who has disturbed him. His nostrils are assailed by the odours of sandalwood and sea fruits that fill his mosquito net. When Saumaeafe has possessed him, he falls into a deep sleep from which he does not awaken until late in the morning. When he gets up, the people wonder at his handsome appearance and his heightened colour. He looks as if he had been exposed to the sun. No young man is keen on such a visitation for, if Saumaeafe finds out that he has another sweetheart, he is liable to pay with his life.
The following incident happened in the year 1890. A lady with brown hair, bunched up as if for the purpose of providing shade, dressed in a kilt of ti leaves, her breasts draped with what is known as bat wing cloth, was walking along the main road of Fasitoo. The villagers were surprised at her beauty and wondered where she had come from, for no travelling party had arrived in town.
When the lady reached the west end of Fasitoo, she was accosted by one of the village chiefs and invited to come to his house for a kava. Very much annoyed, she said: “Shut up. You have no business to talk to me.” The chief retorted, “I haven’t said anything un-becoming. I just invited you to take a cup of kava with me.” “Don’t you dare talk to me,” the lady angrily replied and vanished into thin air.

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12/15/2001

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2:16:59 PM

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There was a girl called ogga pauwa and she was a ugly sea turd. One day a man found the sea turd and he was a bum and then took the sea turd home and cooked it and ate it was dinndinns

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12/18/2001

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1:19:07 AM

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One legend by oratory in Manu’a was about Tuimanu’a and his three sons. Long ago Manu’a was ruled by Tuimanu’a Salofi. He had three sons Nuanuaolefeagaiga, Moligasa, and Leasausemanuiaolenu’u. One day Tuimanu’a Salofi wanted to visit a close friend the tuifiti, and so he planned a voyage to the islands of Fiji with his three sons. When they arrived there, they were treated with great respect by the tuifiti and his people. After about two months the Tuimanu’a and his three sons were ready for their voyage back to Manu’a. They said their farewells to the tuifiti and his people and off they went into the vast blue sea back to Manu’atele. The islands of Fiji were out of sight, and Tuimanu’a Salofi sensed something wrong, and so he told his son Moligasa to look in the back of the canoe to see what was there. When Moligasa looked in the back he found a “Tamafiti” (Fijian boy) hiding in the bottom part of the canoe. Nuanuaolefeagaiga and Leasausemanuiaolenu’u stopped the boat and were ready to throw the unknown boy in the ocean to be stranded and die due to his disrespect to their father Tuimanu’a Salofi. Before they were about to throw the boy out in the ocean Tuimanu’a stopped them and told his three sons to spare his life and make him their adopted brother. The three sons obeyed their father and took him to Manu’a, and made him their adopted brother (Uso fai). They named him Lefiti (The Fijian). He was the one to do all the things representing the Tuimanu’a and his three sons. Even though the last Tuimanu’a (Elisara) passed and took the title with him to the grave, the four names of the sons of Salofi are high titles in Manu’a, which are Nua(Nuanuaolefeagaiga) Moliga(Moligasa) Leasau(Leasausemanuiaolenu’u) and Lefiti.
Nua, Moliga, and Leasau are the true bloodline of their family, which go back in generations, Lefiti on the other hand actually tried to over-ride these three brothers. But only if he could remember where he came from……..

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2/6/2002

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9:17:36 PM

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UIYHITAYUITYUIRGYRUI

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2/9/2002

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7:53:27 PM

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Fuiava is feared becuase of the 'nifo' origin. The story of a small man found in a coconut shell, by Fuiava, long time ago. The small man has super powers that can destroy any enemies of the Fuiava lineage, a protector of the aiga. People are affaraid of it, because its stories are real. I wonder!

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3/1/2002

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7:28:37 PM

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The chief of western samoa was malietoa. He went to visit all the villages and find a brave man who can eat the banana he had. Every village didnt want to eat it, but this guy name nifi was brave enough to try and eat it.So he seen Nifi brooming in front of his house, he went up to nifi and dared him to eat it. SO nifi took a bite and threw down the banana peels and it turned into rocks.So from that day on, they called this village where NIfi lived TOAMUA. toa means brave and mua means first.

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3/21/2002

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3:45:54 PM

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in american samoa there was an old lady and a daughter.One day maietoa needed food and it was the girls and her grandma's turn to feed the king but then during that time the girl and her grandma was poor so then they went to the ocean and drowned themselves and became a turtle and a shark. now when you go to american samoa you could go on a boat and sing a song to make them come to shore and its true... The song goes something like this....... Laumei faiama sau sei fasusu lau tama.....

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3/21/2002

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3:46:47 PM

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4/15/2002

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12:42:25 AM

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This is in reference to the Manua story about the Tuimanua sons Nua, Moliga and Leasau'u. This is to show that who ever wrote this story is an idiot and probaly wasn't raised in Manua. The Manua history will not be alter by anyone to elevate their own status. "E ufiufi lava le tamaimoa ae ioio mai lava". Even a fetus knows the true history of Manua and the village of Tau and it's true "Alii". There are only two Paramount chiefs and that is Lefiti and Sotoa. So where does those three fit in the picture? Tell your daddy to stop telling you nonsense. "E tu'utu'u taliga tala a Manua e le tusia". I guess your father had forgotten to tell you that little info. Anyway, you can tell your story because it's not a true "Manua" story. Ask any true Manua and he will tell you the true history of the majestic island. Lefiti is a true son of Tuimanu'a Salofi. But it's obvious you didn't know that.

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4/15/2002

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12:44:38 AM

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5/5/2002

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4:02:22 AM

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I would like to support the 2nd person who reply regarding the son's of Tui Manu'a Salofi. Lefiti is the true blood son of Tui Manu'a Salofi (believe me, I know). You must not be a Manu'a for writing such a story. Like the saying goes "Think before you speak", get your facts straight. Funny how during all this time Ta'u was preparing for the flag day festivities that I never heard these name mentioned Moliga, Leasau & Nua as a respectable high name to be consider in any decision making. But I got to admit that your father has an imagination for fairy tale story. If you disagree with me, please reply. I would like to meet you. Maybe your identity should be acknowledge (if you have the guts)in the event that you may not be a Ta'u, I don't want to waste any of my precious time.I know all the people from Ta'u. Even the unborn child. Well, you have a nice day. Send my regards to your family. Love you.

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5/9/2002

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3:47:58 PM

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In regards to the responses to the Lefiti story, rather than being so rude on the net and claiming that the stories are false. Why don't you shed some light or tell us the real story if you are such a true Manukan. Fa'afetai.

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5/10/2002

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6:48:57 PM

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I don't think I'm being that rude in here. I'm just trying to divide the facts from fiction. Like I said before, I know the history of my people and quite frankly, it's not for the whole world to view. But since they wrote such a bogus story for your enjoyment; I'll share just a glimpse of the true story on those who call themselves..."FIA-Chief's". I hope you can handle the Truth.
Lefiti title was from his father the late King Tuimanua Salofi. He is the son of the King himself and the daughter of the Tuifiti(king of Fijian Island). When he brought him home he name him Lefiti " NOT a Fijian Child". To put it in lamen terms LE(not) and Fiti(Fiji). That is as clear as it could be. "E ufiufi lava le tamaimoa ae ioio mai lava."
Leasau got his title from annoucing the arrival of the Kings son(Lefiti). Leasau(Means "O le a sau"). Moliga means to take someone or delivering someone. Leasau like Moliga were Tuimanua servents during Lefiti journey to his village now known as Siufaga. The village that was given to him by his late Father King Tuimamanua Salofi. Nua is questionable in the story. The fill-in story goes something like this...When Lefiti arrived at "Ogea" which is his Malae, a rainbow(Nuanua) was seen and this is where the title derived from. The king left behind his servant(Leasau,Moliga, and Nua(?) to serve his son(Lefiti). As years passed Lefiti felt that Tuimanua servants have outdone themselve so he appointed them as protectors and sitting council (puapua alii) of his Village when he's not around. The true Nua title came from a chief name Pese. When Pese was on his way back to the house from a fishing trip, he saw an unknown man sleeping on the beach infront of his house. He did not have a name and during the same time Pese saw a rainbow. So Pese named the man, Nuanua. So in reality Nua used to served Pese in the begining of time. So I hope you enjoy that little taste of our history. Faafetai tele lava.

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5/13/2002

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1:39:41 PM

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That's right brother! Preach the truth and the truth will set the Manukan Freeeeeeeeeee...... I myself have heard similar stories from my daddadaadaa.... You can't hide the truth from the people that was raised and grew at the rock... "E le valea foi gei fagau".

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5/13/2002

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7:27:04 PM

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HI,JUST PASSING THRU AND NOTICED THE DEBATE IN HERE REGARDING THE MANU'A LEGEND...... IS THERE ANY SUPPORT TO THESE THEORIES? I HAVE HEARD OF THE FIRST STORY... IS THERE NO WRITTEN RECORD OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED EVERYONE WILL CLAIM THEIR STORY IS RIGHT ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HEAR FROM THEIR FAMILIES.....

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5/13/2002

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9:20:20 PM

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In regards to our recent post. I was wondering if it would matter? To have written documentation of this dispute. Is not history a written form of oral history? Has not the biased perspective of the author of many history books been made explicit? I wonder what would it prove if these stories were documented on paper? If you are dieing for the truth...consider this. What positions do the "three son's" of Tuimanu'a have, at present? Is there status equal to that of Lefiti? If not, why is that? Could they have done something to Tuimanu'a to lose his favor? Or could there actually be a posibility that what they say of Lefiti, he being the real son of Tuimanu'a, be true? Look at what the present day facts support. Besides, don't use Western ideals of written documentation as a means of justifying Samoan culture. It just doesn't fit. Use Samoan means to authenticate Samoan truths.

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5/13/2002

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9:21:32 PM

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In regards to our recent post. I was wondering if it would matter? To have written documentation of this dispute. Is not history a written form of oral history? Has not the biased perspective of the author of many history books been made explicit? I wonder what would it prove if these stories were documented on paper? If you are dieing for the truth...consider this. What positions do the "three son's" of Tuimanu'a have, at present? Is their status equal to that of Lefiti? If not, why is that? Could they have done something to Tuimanu'a to lose his favor? Or could there actually be a posibility that what they say of Lefiti, he being the real son of Tuimanu'a, be true? Look at what the present day facts support. Besides, don't use Western ideals of written documentation as a means of justifying Samoan culture. It just doesn't fit. Use Samoan means to authenticate Samoan truths.

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5/14/2002

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2:56:15 PM

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I DONT KNOW, BUT THE THEORY THAT THE PERSON TELLS ON 5.10.02 DOESNT SEEM SOUND RIGHT, IT SEEMS THAT EVERYONE TELLS THE STORY THAT THEY LIKE TO HEAR.... MAYBE THE HISTORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD THE WAY IT REALLY HAPPENED BY ONE OF THE ELDERS OF THE ISLAND THERE SEEMS TO BE ALOT OF INFORMATION MISSING. I'VE HEARD THE LEGEND AND THERE IS A REASON WHY THE RESPECT IS GIVEN TO LEFITI..... BUT I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU.. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR OPINION ..... BUT WE MUST BE CAREFUL OF WHAT WE SAY.....THERE WILL BE A TIME AND A PLACE WHEN THIS WILL BE STRAIGHTEND OUT....

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5/14/2002

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2:57:40 PM

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I DONT KNOW, BUT THE THEORY THAT THE PERSON TELLS ON 5.10.02 DOESNT SEEM TO SOUND RIGHT, IT SEEMS THAT EVERYONE TELLS THE STORY THAT THEY LIKE TO HEAR.... MAYBE THE HISTORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD THE WAY IT REALLY HAPPENED BY ONE OF THE ELDERS OF THE ISLAND THERE SEEMS TO BE ALOT OF INFORMATION MISSING. I'VE HEARD THE LEGEND AND THERE IS A REASON WHY THE RESPECT IS GIVEN TO LEFITI..... BUT I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU.. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR OPINION ..... BUT WE MUST BE CAREFUL OF WHAT WE SAY.....THERE WILL BE A TIME AND A PLACE WHEN THIS WILL BE STRAIGHTEND OUT....

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5/15/2002

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12:36:19 AM

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Well, let's hear your version of why Lefiti is given respects. Maybe those who seem to be an expert at the subject can enlighten us as to whether what you were told is true. But let me just suggest this. Would it satisfy you to hear an elder tell you that what the person wrote in December is not true? Because if that is so, then there are a few people that I can suggest that you ask.

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5/15/2002

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2:45:23 AM

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hmmmm...sounds like a threat...now that the Lefiti title has no holder...will those who had caused the last one problems come out of their shells? hhhhmmmm

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5/15/2002

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10:46:10 AM

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YOU SEEM QUITE UPSET AT THE OPINIONS THAT ARE POSTED. LIKE I SAID, IM NOT IN HERE TO ARGUE, BUT WHAT IF I WAS INTRESTED IN HEARING FROM AN ELDER? WHO CAN IT BE???

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5/15/2002

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2:22:20 PM

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umm, hi, im another who heard of the Manu'a legend..... and the first story is true.... but like the other one said the is more to it... if you need to hear from the elders... it needs to be from someone who knows the history-not just any elder,for all we know it could be a realitive lefiti ......

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5/16/2002

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12:00:04 PM

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That's nice to know that generation-x are intereting in the history. Let me give you my 2Cent on the issue. Lefiti is the paramount chief of Suifaga or the "Faatui". With that said, the other I don't know who they are and where they came from... Maybe the other dude was right. They are servants of the Tuimanua.

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5/16/2002

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1:05:42 PM

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maybe everyone in here needs to get their stories straight.....

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5/16/2002

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1:11:16 PM

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idont know about that... i may not be from the island of manu'a, and i am not generation-x (?),but the history needs to be straight because of the fact that some like to twist it around to make their family seem higher than others. at least that's what i am getting from the others who sostrongly seem to be upset......curious reader

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5/16/2002

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3:29:42 PM

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Let's all get something straight here...we've heard two versions of the story now. If we are as intelligent as I assume we all are, it shoul not be difficult to calculate who's story was true. The first story claims that the three sons were sons of Tuimanu'a...well I can name a whole bunch of families who are descended from the Tuimanu'a line, that still doesn't prove diddly. The second story does have some weight seeing as how it may be plausible for this individual to actually have been the sone of Tuimanu'a, seeing as how he does have the "Fa'atui" honors bestowed upon him, and was granted the authority to rule over Siufaga as his own. The only other individual I hear having any significant power in Ta'u is the Vaimagalo Sotoa. Now, try to make the connections here, if what the first story professes is true, why then do they not have the same if not higher status the Lefiti and Sotoa? These honors have been preordained since the first title holders and have not changed, so why haven't the "three sons" have the same honors bestowed upon them? Sounds a bit fishy if you ask me

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5/16/2002

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5:58:25 PM

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It seems to be a good debate issue whether Lefiti is in fact a son (true blood) of Tuimanu'a. Well, I've read the two versions & the replys. Manu'a will always try to disagree who is the king family, or who has power or shall I say kingdom power on who's who's & etc.
It is so sad that every generation may have there own version. I agree with having the facts. I also find that no matter what version is right, every family will have there version to fit there status quo as "Aiga Tupu".
I am a true Manu'a residing off-island. But it doesn't mean I don't know my roots & history. Like everyone, I too heard the second version from my ancestors and pulls alot of weight towards having some truth.
My question is, if Moliga, Leasau & Nuanua pass away will they be "fata" to their quest house? It's down in history why this particular ceromony takes place "fata". I rest my case.
At this time I would like to apologize to anyone & everyone if I may have been rude. I don't think we want to sound rude. Like I said this is a good debate. As for the old folkie.....there's plenty of them left in Manu'a from each family to tell there version. Would be very interesting.
May God Bless All of you & you all have a nice day.

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5/16/2002

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6:57:53 PM

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What is the meaning of all this? And what are going trying to gain from this? Is it money? Prestige? or for the hell of it?
I have a hypothetical question, if God would call upon Moliga, Nua, or Leasau (God willingly nothing of that nature happens) would they be "fata"? It is down in history why this kind of ceremony takes place & to whom.
I think all of this is all out of jealousy. If my memory serves me right, my ancestors once said.... "ole ato faitala, ato loto leaga ma le ato fa'aleaga tagata na masa'a i Man'ua".
With all the problems in Tutuila, why would you folks want to destroy our beautiful paradise of Manu'a in such controversy & b.s. Let Tutuila do the all the criticism of titles & land.
To end my piece, I want to apologize if I may offended anyone or was rude. I know we don't mean to sound that way, but when you are debating you will come across these kind of attitude just to make a point.
To everyone in Manu'a, God Bless You All my family and have a nice day.

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5/16/2002

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8:13:32 PM

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Has it cross anyone's mind that maybe a family member of these families have come into this site, and have read the entries and are like laughing their asses off? I am not from Manu'a but it seems to me that there are a couple of people out there trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill (thier familial status in particular)! After reading the dialogues I feel like there is an established "Aiga Tupu" that everyone is talking about, with several wanna be's trying to rewrite history.

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5/16/2002

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8:13:44 PM

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Has it cross anyone's mind that maybe a family member of these families have come into this site, and have read the entries and are like laughing their asses off? I am not from Manu'a but it seems to me that there are a couple of people out there trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill (thier familial status in particular)! After reading the dialogues I feel like there is an established "Aiga Tupu" that everyone is talking about, with several wanna be's trying to rewrite history.

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5/17/2002

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2:56:00 PM

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Hello there, I found this website by accident and it's a very nice one. My am from one of the families that everyone in here is debating about. It's very interesting to know that so many are intrested in our history.... I live here in the States and just reading these .... I am now very much intrested in researching my family tree.Thank you all so much .......

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5/17/2002

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8:57:48 PM

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The truth of the matter is, our whole culture is change because of the western world influenced. Regardless of how we look at it the culture, is change. With all the influence comes the changes in how we do business. Just look at our family today and who's holding the big title. If you don't have the green your pretty much out of the picture. Even Manua is affect by the this. The more money you show the small Matai the better sitting your get in the council. Money has make and brake names, but as long as there is one surviving soul in Manua the truth will always prevail.

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5/17/2002

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11:08:36 PM

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okay...so who do you think has the money? Last time I checked everyone of these matai that are being mentioned are well to do. So wassup?

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5/18/2002

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Hey-hey-hey!...Heard there was an interesting debate going on here and I just thought I'd see what the issue is.
I never new about this website, so I will have to take some time later on to appreciate what it has to offer.
This is all real nice and interesting to read, share, and talk about but I thought this was suppose to be a section of "Samoan Myths & Legends"?
Debates are always great, and communication is always good, but lets not get personal and offensive. Let us remember the semantics here and I'll put it simply: myth - a story or belief that attempts to express or explain a basic truth. legend - a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition and popularly accepted as historical. history - is the branch of knowledge dealing with past events, a narrative, written or oral, relating to a particular people, country, period, person etc.
This is to all the beautiful people of Samoa, and especially the Lefiti and Sotoa families. We as Samoans have a beautiful heritage and culture that we can be proud of. In addition to that we have a proud history and lineage also. Like other Samoan families, these families know their history and lineage and I'm sure they are very proud of it. Let us not confuse myths and legends with historical facts. Let us as good and decent people respect their right to privacy and perhaps our Samoan people will someday have a historical document in which the truth will prevail.
To the individual of 12/18/2001, if you are not from the Lefiti or Sotoa family, naturally you will not know their respective family histories. You should focus your certainties on knowing where you are from and what your family history may be. And let us hope your family history is not based on, as you put it "one legend by oratory" that was handed down to you.
In summation, I have often heard it said in Samoan, "E iloa lava le tamalii i ona uiga...e iloa fo'i e Samoa ona Aiga Tupu ma Tamalii". I was told that this statement makes reference to the fact that those of high ancestral descent do not need to go around boasting of who they are or where they're from, in our Samoan culture the "faalupega" has ensured us of the order of protocol. So having said all this...Let us keep this a section of "Samoan Myths and Legends" that we can all enjoy and continue to be enriched from and let us not use this as a forum for personal attacks on any family.
MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL!!!

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5/20/2002

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1:36:47 PM

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Well I guess that's all the man wrote...kinda put the flame out in the debate, but I think that it was about time.

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5/20/2002

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1:37:07 PM

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Well I guess that's all the man wrote...kinda put the flame out in the debate, but I think that it was about time.

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5/20/2002

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6:57:50 PM

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hey,let's hear more of the samoan legends and/or myths.........

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5/21/2002

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5:00:14 PM

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Talofa lava all of you. I am the writer of the first complaint of rudeness on this site. I would like to apologized if I offended any of you. But my whole point was to encourage dialogue and communication regarding the myths and legends. Like the person on 5/21/02 stated, this is a good site to discuss and share our recollection and facts that were passed on orally or in writing by our elders. I totally agreed, that we should not alter or make-up things to make our families look better than the next one, because as long as we are Samoans, we are all related somehow. So, it's good to help each other understand what we have learned througout our lives as the younger generations in regards to the history of our families. I have grown to love the Samoan culture and respect our heritage, customs, etc. It's such a unique and awesome culture, but this can be ignored and lost with attitudes of thinking you are ranked higher, smarter, etc. than your next Samoan brother or sister. Therefore, let's be professional in dealing with this site. Ia manuia lava le aso.

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5/21/2002

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5:00:28 PM

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Talofa lava all of you. I am the writer of the first complaint of rudeness on this site. I would like to apologized if I offended any of you. But my whole point was to encourage dialogue and communication regarding the myths and legends. Like the person on 5/21/02 stated, this is a good site to discuss and share our recollection and facts that were passed on orally or in writing by our elders. I totally agreed, that we should not alter or make-up things to make our families look better than the next one, because as long as we are Samoans, we are all related somehow. So, it's good to help each other understand what we have learned througout our lives as the younger generations in regards to the history of our families. I have grown to love the Samoan culture and respect our heritage, customs, etc. It's such a unique and awesome culture, but this can be ignored and lost with attitudes of thinking you are ranked higher, smarter, etc. than your next Samoan brother or sister. Therefore, let's be professional in dealing with this site. Ia manuia lava le aso.

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5/21/2002

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6:40:01 PM

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5/21/2002

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Why is Lefiti and Sotoa fa'alupega are no longer mentioned in the Manua fa'alupega now a days? What fa'alupega of Ta'u do you know? Who will be the next Lefiti title holder?

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5/21/2002

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7:15:31 PM

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In regards to the 2 names Leasau and Moliga, it's true that it derived from the saying "O le a sau le momoliga sa o le Tuimanu'a. As far as using the word 'servant" it doesn't fit the responsibilities bestowed upon Leasau and Moliga because they are not slaves. Although they are there to be of assistance and promotes the interests of Tuimanu'a. In other words, they "tautua" the honorable Tuimanu'a but not his slaves. While on their way with the momoli, they came across a rainbow and got the name "Nuanua o le feagaiga". That's my understanding of this story. Again, Lefiti and Sotoa are the paramount chiefs and Leasau, Moliga, Nua, are the "pupu ali'i" and the supporters of Tuimanu'a. Talk to you guys later.

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5/22/2002

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Hello Samoa,
It's good to see the communication is still flowing, but these are not mythical or legendary people you folks are talking about. These are real families and your insistence on discussing these families is debasing and demeaning.
Perhaps, the creator of this website should make a section on Samoan History whereby members of a family can submit verified data regarding their own personal family history that they choose to share with the community at large. That would be a great section to share the origin and meaning of names, titles, properties, places, etc. I must admit, some of our Samoan names and their significant meanings can be real awesome and worthwhile sharing, but it should be done so by the originators or respective families themselves.
If you're interested in faalupega's...check out the faalupega section or talk to the village elders or councils. If you're interested in who the next title-holders are...by all means talk to the families directly or try The Almighty Himself. Afterall, the Samoans do say "e mai Le Atua se tofi" ..."e tatou te talatalanoa ai nei ae ua uma ona tofia e Le Atua". Discrediting families is NOT the basis of real Samoan Pride.
Do you folks catch my drift?...Lets get off the Gossip-Trail and stick with myths and legends here alright?!?!
MUCH LOVE TO ALL OUR SAMOAN PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!!!!

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5/22/2002

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First of all, this is a discussion on the legacy of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Second, in order to separate the facts from the gossip-trail, enlighten our discussion with facts of such an important person in the Manu'a history. Thirdly, I think you are the person that started the name calling and degrading of someone sharing his / her understanding of the Tuimanu'a Salofi legend. So, please let's all respond accordingly and try not to offend each other.

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5/22/2002

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Hi everyone.......I heard about the discussion of the "Lefiti" on this website & decided to check it out.
Wow, there is only 4 other stories/legend plus the "Lefiti" one which has many respond to it. I am a relative of the Lefiti clan & it's interesting that our family name is a hot topic & everyone & anyone wants to discuss it.
Frankly, I'm not offended in anyway, I know my family history, so no one can change it or make rude remarks to offend myself. As for the rest of my family......I don't think they really care what other people say on the who's who.....we know who we are and our family lineage & are proud of it, and for the rest of the world that wants to know, well good luck.
I'm just glad that if it wasn't for our family history it would of remained only 4 stories/legend. But it has filled up alot in this section.
For my family who are now aware of this site, thanks you for not taking any part in this, but I'm sorry to respond. I know we agreed for no one to respond but, I just had to let some of the readers know that we are aware & there's no problem.
To everyone & anyone, May God Bless You All. We love you no matter what.

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5/22/2002

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Hi everyone.......I heard about the discussion of the "Lefiti" on this website & decided to check it out.
Wow, there is only 4 other stories/legend plus the "Lefiti" one which has many respond to it. I am a relative of the Lefiti clan & it's interesting that our family name is a hot topic & everyone & anyone wants to discuss it.
Frankly, I'm not offended in anyway, I know my family history, so no one can change it or make rude remarks to offend myself. As for the rest of my family......I don't think they really care what other people say on the who's who.....we know who we are and our family lineage & are proud of it, and for the rest of the world that wants to know, well good luck.
I'm just glad that if it wasn't for our family history it would of remained only 4 stories/legend. But it has filled up alot in this section.
For my family who are now aware of this site, thanks you for not taking any part in this, but I'm sorry to respond. I know we agreed for no one to respond but, I just had to let some of the readers know that we are aware & there's no problem.
To everyone & anyone, May God Bless You All. We love you no matter what.

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5/23/2002

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To: User 5/22/2002 of 4:25:02am
The legacy of Tuimanu'a Salofi is a personal gift bequested to HIS FAMILY - NOT a legend or myth open for discussion. Unless you are a descendant of his, there is nothing to discuss here. If you are a direct descendant then exemplify yourself in the manner becoming of nobility. Some things are very sacred to the people of Manu'a and for good reason I may add.
If you want to understand the Tuimanu'a History / Lineage then do your research, verify your sources of information, and document it respectfully. This is not the proper place or forum for discussing people of such importance.
Like I stated earlier, generating discussion for the purpose of discrediting families and their respective histories merely portrays yourself as an individual lacking respect...a quality of utmost importance to our Samoan Culture. If you feel insulted...hey, I didn't call you any names, you insulted and degraded yourself with your own behavior.
There are many "legends" pertaining to the Tuimanu'a Kingship that I'm sure others would enjoy sharing. Let's discuss some of them and others as well.
WITH THE UTMOST OF RESPECT AND LOVE TO YOU ALL!!!...TOFA.

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5/23/2002

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hey peeps in the web, i dont know the big deal about the myths and legends (and the big fuss.) the truth is...true, samoa was found on those two things (myths and legends) but then, samoa found GOD...ruler of all. its cool that you want to know the truth and all but, the ghosts of the past wont do you any good. i dont agree with the "props" being given the so-called "aitu" of the past when there is a living God that judges all from the past til now. my advice to you my fellow country-men and women, let the past be the past and stay focus on the motto of both samoas til now, which is...Western Samoa: "fa'avae i le Atua Samoa" and Tutuila: "Samoa mo le Atua". ia soia loa le tou "argue" i na mea tuai e le ola ai se isi ae toaga e tatlo ma faitau legends mai le tusi paia. May the Lord richly bless all you out there and keep you under His care...... love, 007

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5/24/2002

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Fa'afetai 007...I understand your situation, and far be it from me to criticize someone who champions our heavenly Father, but it's your type of attitude that turns people off from Him. A true believer and lover of the Lord would try to follow His ways as much as possible, and being close minded and tunnel visioned is not going to win converters. Acknowledge our heritage because it is the Lord's creation.

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5/29/2002

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Hey anyone know the legend of Fatu ma Futi?

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6/3/2002

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Can we talk about somthing else? How about Sina and the Eel? Or Big Foot Moso? This Tuimanu'a issue has been going on since February and they are still at each others throats but no one seems to know the answer to their own darn questions!! Ya'll bunch of idiots. Besides, we are here to post Samoan Myths and Legends, not about your family, and who is high chief and blah blah blah!! With the speed of life we are living right now, most of the timee, having a title doesn't matter!!

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6/3/2002

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Why is there a confusion on the title Lefiti and these iole known as Nua,Leasau,and Moliga.Let me start by quoting the Faalupega of Manua."Afio le laau na amotasi(Tuimanua)Faatui(Sotoa and Lefiti)ma to'oto'o ole Faleula.That is the Faalupega of Manua.The two Faatui or Paramount are in Tau,and to clear the air let me quote u the Faalipega of Tau.Afio Sotoa male suafa Lefiti,usoalii male mamalu ole Faletolu.The usoalii mention above on the Faalupega of Tau does not include iole Nua,Leasau,Moliga.Last and not least,is where Nua,Lasau,Moliga titlte come in the picture.Tau is divided in to two village council.One is Luma and Siufaga.Lefiti was appointed by his dad King Tuimanua to take over Siufaga.Before Lefiti left for Siufaga,Tuimanua had already send down his servants(Nua,Leasau,Moliga) to clean his malae, cook his food,and wipe his ass.Please dont ever write no stupid story about Nua,Leasau,and Moliga.So to make the story easy Nua,Leasau and Moliga are Lefiti ass wipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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6/4/2002

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fafafini ufa fried rice

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6/4/2002

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ufa

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6/4/2002

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american samoans are ufas

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6/4/2002

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In response to the person who wrote the above statements about american samoa.The only ufas is your dad,mom,sister your wife and your kids.Why dont u be a man and post your real name and your address so i can bust your ass.

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6/4/2002

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Today at 6:25am and 6:28am someone post a very idiotic message saying that American Samoans are "UFAs". You know what, if you don't like a certain person from the island then be a real man and confront him or her but don't abuse the internet by making your racist remarks. It just shows that you need some more education.I'm not sure if you are a Samoan, I hope not.If you are another Samoan then you know what they say back home--the only ufas are your Mom and Dad and your whole family. If you're not a Samoan I wish that you refrain from making general racist statements because you are nothing but an idiot and a UFA yourself.Furthermore, under the constitution you have a freedom of speech. However, my brother/sister you have no freedom when it comes to making racial remarks because that will be Discrimination.Therefore,freedom of speech and freedom of expression are few of your so called "constitutional rights". But don't abuse it by making racist statements like "American Samoans" are ufas because all you will get is a black eye. Let me warn you my friend, that if I find out that you live close by, I will come overthere and bust your ass.People are entitle to their own opinions and express themselves any way they want, but don't make general statements and victimize the whole group of people by the actions of a few because that is very insulting.If you're not Samoan, ufa means-butthead..ok. So long. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/4/2002

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I DON'T THINK I'LL BE STOPPING BY HERE AGAIN... THE FORUM IS GETTING OUT OF HAND! I DONT THINK THAT THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE ONES MENTIONED ABOVE APPRECIATES THE NAME CALLING!!! TOFA SAMOA AND I AM SORRY THAT SOMEONE HAD TO COME IN TO RUIN THINGS.....

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6/4/2002

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As a member of the Lefiti family I neither condone nor approve of such lowly behavior as exhibited by some members of our family. If there is any lesson that a Lefiti is taught when they are young, is never to think of ourselves as better than anyone else. We already know who we are, where we came from and we don't need to justify this to anyone. Our matai who just recently passed away would be very dissappointed with us if he knew the kinds of things we were saying on this website. If there's anything that we, as members of the Lefiti family need to do is to perpetuate the lessons of humility and caring that the Lefiti family is known for. If people are going to talk, let them talk. It's not our place to discredit them. Ia outou manatua, e iloa le tamali'i i ana amioga!

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6/5/2002

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Talofa everybody. First of all we all know that God is the only KING of the heavens and the earth.The Samoan people like myself believe that. That is the only TRUTH and He is the only TUPU. However, my brother/sister, B E F O R E we knew that Heavenly Father exist, Samoan people had their own gods and kings/tupus. Now with the legacy of TUIMANU'A , he was the king of the Manu'a islands.Of what I understand is that all the " pa'ia and the mamalu fa'aleatunu'u " in Manu'a was bestowed upon him by the people of Manu'a and declared him king of the Manu'a islands. He was perhaps the first or a descendant of the first family that inhabitat the Manu'atele. I am married to a true descendant of the family and they are indeed proud of their heritage. The inhabitation of the land by the people that I'm talking about goes back to the Western civilization history.Remember that the Samoan people have their own myths of how the Samoans came to be. Like the myth with Tagaloa, how he created the 'ele'ele and papa.That is a real myth. With respect to the Lefiti title I learned that he was a TRUE son of TUIMAU'A. I have no knowledge of anything else about the title. Just remember that when their is no true blood line then the title/suafa will finally disappear.In other words,the title/suafa will continue as long as there is someone qualify and approved by the family to hold the suafa. The TUIMANU'A legacy is not a myth it's authentic history, part of the past that is carried on today by this family as a royalty tradition.We learn from the past but live for the future. You and I as Samoans should be proud of our heritage but lets not disgrace our culture by trying to discredit other peoples opinions and knowledge of the subject matter.Don't forget that you and I don't know everything because we were not there in the past. So be open minded and don't be stubborn with your own thougths. Samoa e muamua le Atua/E faavae Samoa ile Atua.God is the only KING of the heavens and the earth.Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/5/2002

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6/5/2002

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Hey what happen to my story that I just submitted a minute ago?

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6/7/2002

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WHAT ABOUT LE USO O "TUNA MA FATA"

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6/7/2002

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what about them?

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6/7/2002

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there is only one WAILENA SI'AULA SEPULONA AND SHE IS IN HAWAII SHE HAS SPECIAL POWERS SHE IS THE HEAD OF ALL THE SAMOAN IN THIS WORLD. DO NOT MESS WITH HER; OR HER ANCESTORS WILL COME FOR YOU. THIS IS A TRUE STORIE HIDDEN BY THE ELDERS OF SAMOA.

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6/7/2002

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there is only one WAILENA SI'AULA SEPULONA AND SHE IS IN HAWAII SHE HAS SPECIAL POWERS SHE IS THE HEAD OF ALL THE SAMOAN MALA'S IN THIS WORLD. DO NOT MESS WITH HER; OR HER ANCESTORS WILL COME FOR YOU. THIS IS A TRUE STORIE HIDDEN BY THE ELDERS OF SAMOA.

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6/7/2002

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Hey what's up with this Wailena Si'aula Sepulona? Is it a myth or what? If she is a living thing then don't discuss her because obviously she is not a myth.By the way, you claim that she has some special powers? She is also the head of all the Samoans in the world? How come I NEVER HEARD of her? Well let me see, if she has some special powers then she must have a gift from the creator-GOD. She needs to use that special energy in to doing something worthwhile for all living things. However my friend, if her special powers brings disaster/mala to the world especially to the Samoan people then you have no case because you are TALKING NONSENSE.. Homo sapiens are considered to be on top of the organization of living things.We as members of this species were created equal in every respect.A special power/gift given by the creator is not intended to bring mala to its own creation.Therefore, fear not for GOD the only KING is the only one that can bring mala to our lives if we are not doing HIS WILL.Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/7/2002

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Hey what's up with this Wailena Si'aula Sepulona? Is it a myth or what? If she is a living thing then don't discuss her because obviously she is not a myth.By the way, you claim that she has some special powers? She is also the head of all the Samoans in the world? How come I NEVER HEARD of her? Well let me see, if she has some special powers then she must have a gift from the creator-GOD. She needs to use that special energy in to doing something worthwhile for all living things. However my friend, if her special powers brings disaster/mala to the world especially to the Samoan people then you have no case because you are TALKING NONSENSE.. Homo sapiens are considered to be on top of the organization of living things.We as members of this species were created equal in every respect.A special power/gift given by the creator is not intended to bring mala to its own creation.Therefore, fear not for GOD the only KING is the only one that can bring mala to our lives if we are not doing HIS WILL.Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/11/2002

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OKAAAAYYYYY....what is with the wailena story ?????? head of all the samoans??????????? oh puhleeeease!!!!

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6/11/2002

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SOOOO, WHAT'S UP WITH THIS WAILENA????AND SHE IS THE HEAD OF ALL SAMOANS FOR WHAT? AND WHAT SAMOANS IS SHE HEAD OF???? BE SERIOUS!!!! THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS IN CHARGE OF ME IS THE ALMIGHT GOD!!! WAILENA?!!! YEA RITE!!! MALOLO IA LI'I HEAD OF UNKNOWN:>

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6/11/2002

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ABOUT THE TUIMANUA, LIKE WHAT 5/22 ON BOTH SIDE SAID, THIS IS A MYTH & LEGENDS LET'S LEAVE THE DEAD KING ALONE!!! I AM ONE OF THE FAMILY MEMBER, AND I READ & HEARD A TOTAL DIFFERENT VERSION, BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE, AND WHEN I SAY "WE" I MEAN ALL 3 BROTHER'S & KINS DO NOT GET ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT NOW DAYS. THE PAST IS BEST LEFT ALONE, I JUST LEFT TA'U MANU'A ABOUT A WEEK, & WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE, AND IT BOILS DOWN THAT WE SHOULD JUST LEAVE THIS SUBJECT ALONE BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING "FALETOLU" I THINK YOU WOULD HEAR THAT CERTAIN TITLES AREN'T MENTIONED. AND TO YOU 5/22 (WIPE ASS) REALLY NOW, COULDN'T YOU USE YOUR BRAINS INSTEAD OF YOUR ASS TO THINK WITH THAT THEIR ARE YOUR TEEN ADULTS WHO ARE READING THIS, SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN SOMETHING, BUT INSTEAD YOU (6/3 11:46:59 )WITH YOUR LITTLE 2 YEAR OLD BRAIN, CAN'T CONTROL YOUR ANGER BY REPHRASING YOUR WORDS. MY TEENAGE DAUGHTER & NIECES SHOWED ME THIS, AND WE KNEW IT WAS A (MATAVALEA)GROWN UP WHO SUBMITTED THAT EMAIL ON 6/3 11:46:59) GROW UP AND SHUT UP!!! LETS JUST STICK TO WHAT THE TITLE SAYS "SAMOAN MYTHS AND LEGENDS" NOT SAMOANS WHO WANNA BE KNOWN!!!!

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6/12/2002

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In response to the person who wrote about Tuimanua on 6/11/02.6:35 PM.I really dont give a dam about your stupid daughter showing u what i wrote.You probably one of them low life idiot that stay back in Tau and dont do jack.Before you called somebody stupid ,lets see what kind of education and background you got.Dont get mad because im stating the facts about your uncles Leasau,Nua an Moliga.The Faletolu existed way before Tuimanua came in play,I know this.So dont think, i dont know the history jack or should i call u stupid.

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6/12/2002

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TO: 6/12/02 12:07:07AM Ia malo lava le onosai! Aua le ita pe afai e sese famatalaga o nisi tagata ile tala'aga o Tuimanua. This is a very touchy subject, maybe you should give out your email address that way you can have a private discussion with them. It was interesting to read about Tuimanua at the beginning, but it started to get really ugly in here when you started threatening people. Its sad, because I thought we were better people, we don't have to result to fighting?! Lets talk TO EACH OTHER, NOT AT EACH OTHER. It would be nice to have this settled.

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6/12/2002

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I was just entering this site to read up on some Samoan Myths and Legends. I guess everyone decided to have a debate instead. I'm a NZ born Samoan girl who is trying to learn more about my culture, I've only been to Samoa twice in my life and it's absolute paradise to me. However, could someone post more myths and legends I find them interesting and would really like to read more.
MUCH LOVE TO MY BEATIFUL ISLAND PEOPLE!!

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6/13/2002

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To: 6/11 and 6/12 posters respectively. Please desist from draggin my families name into the dust. The individual from Manu'a, you are no better then the individual who called the "three sons" @$$@#$. I had previously written a message earlier rejecting the behavior of our family members, and frankly I had assumed the issue was over. As for discussing this misunderstanding during a fono of the faletolu, I think your time could have been used more productively then to discuss what a few angered members of these families have been saying about eachother. Let's keep FALETOLU talks to village issues, and not inappropriate bickering done on the internet. Ia tatou iloa teu le vafealoa'i fa'amolemole!

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6/14/2002

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WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE?? this should be a myth and legend forum..... pls to whoever is calling names,stop!

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6/14/2002

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Any Samoan Myths and Legends? Anyone???

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6/14/2002

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Can all you guys just shoosh you dont know anything after all because you wernet there so how you know its true even if you are a relative to Lefiti and all it still doesnt prove you know the real story so shoosh.

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6/14/2002

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Does anyone know the legend about the turtle and how it came to be?
Is it true about finding this turtle in only one place at a certain time?
Does this turtle have any significance?
Is it an Amakua(family protector) similar to the hawaiian legend?
Anyone?????

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6/15/2002

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6/15/2002

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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Let me try. Before I start I want to ask that you go buy a copy of Fofo Sunias' 2nd edition of his book called "MEASINA A SAMOA". I'm actually quoting from his book. There are actually 3 different versions of this myth. The myth is how the name S A M O A came to be. Now there is a UPOLU version,SAVAII version and of course a MANU'A version. I want to start with the Upolu version: Once upon a time there was a family that lived at Fagaloa(a place located above UAFATO in UPOLU island). The name of the family is The TAGALOAS-Aiga Sa Tagaloa. This family is like the gods of the Samoans.The head of the family is the old man named Tagaloaalagi.He had two children. The boys' name was MOA and the girls' name was LU.While the old man was resting one day he heard his children singing. The boy sings his name first and then his sisters' name second. He sings Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu. Then the girl answers by singing her name first and her brothers' name second. She sings Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa.Tagaloaalagi( the old man) was very upset and angry at his daughter for putting her name first and her brothrs name second. The old man got up and beat his daughter with his fue (Samoan whisk).He also chased her out of his house and told her not to come back. He told her that his son Moa is the alii or the king of the family.She shouldn't be putting her name before his name. The girl ran away from home and went down to the village. Everything was "sa" (taboo) for Moa. The "sa' for Moa continued on for a long time.Everyone heard about it even the tourist heard about it and they refer to the island as the place where tere is a "sa" for Moa. Then the word spreads and and it later became Sa Moa or Samoa.(How was that? I thought that was funny and interesting).That's all for now but stay tune for the Savaii version after the commercial. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/15/2002

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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Let me try. Before I start I want to ask that you go buy a copy of Fofo Sunias' 2nd edition of his book called "MEASINA A SAMOA". I'm actually quoting from his book. There are actually 3 different versions of this myth. The myth is how the name S A M O A came to be. Now there is a UPOLU version,SAVAII version and of course a MANU'A version. I want to start with the Upolu version: Once upon a time there was a family that lived at Fagaloa(a place located above UAFATO in UPOLU island). The name of the family is The TAGALOAS-Aiga Sa Tagaloa. This family is like the gods of the Samoans.The head of the family is the old man named Tagaloaalagi.He had two children. The boys' name was MOA and the girls' name was LU.While the old man was resting one day he heard his children singing. The boy sings his name first and then his sisters' name second. He sings Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu. Then the girl answers by singing her name first and her brothers' name second. She sings Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa.Tagaloaalagi( the old man) was very upset and angry at his daughter for putting her name first and her brothrs name second. The old man got up and beat his daughter with his fue (Samoan whisk).He also chased her out of his house and told her not to come back. He told her that his son Moa is the alii or the king of the family.She shouldn't be putting her name before his name. The girl ran away from home and went down to the village. Everything was "sa" (taboo) for Moa. The "sa' for Moa continued on for a long time.Everyone heard about it even the tourist heard about it and they refer to the island as the place where tere is a "sa" for Moa. Then the word spreads and and it later became Sa Moa or Samoa.(How was that? I thought that was funny and interesting).That's all for now but stay tune for the Savaii version after the commercial. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/15/2002

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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Let me try. Before I start I want to ask that you go buy a copy of Fofo Sunias' 2nd edition of his book called "MEASINA A SAMOA". I'm actually quoting from his book. There are actually 3 different versions of this myth. The myth is how the name S A M O A came to be. Now there is a UPOLU version,SAVAII version and of course a MANU'A version. I want to start with the Upolu version: Once upon a time there was a family that lived at Fagaloa(a place located above UAFATO in UPOLU island). The name of the family is The TAGALOAS-Aiga Sa Tagaloa. This family is like the gods of the Samoans.The head of the family is the old man named Tagaloaalagi.He had two children. The boys' name was MOA and the girls' name was LU.While the old man was resting one day he heard his children singing. The boy sings his name first and then his sisters' name second. He sings Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu. Then the girl answers by singing her name first and her brothers' name second. She sings Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa.Tagaloaalagi( the old man) was very upset and angry at his daughter for putting her name first and her brothrs name second. The old man got up and beat his daughter with his fue (Samoan whisk).He also chased her out of his house and told her not to come back. He told her that his son Moa is the alii or the king of the family.She shouldn't be putting her name before his name. The girl ran away from home and went down to the village. Everything was "sa" (taboo) for Moa. The "sa' for Moa continued on for a long time.Everyone heard about it even the tourist heard about it and they refer to the island as the place where tere is a "sa" for Moa. Then the word spreads and and it later became Sa Moa or Samoa.(How was that? I thought that was funny and interesting).That's all for now but stay tune for the Savaii version after the commercial. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/17/2002

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Talofa & Happy Fathers Day to you all!!! O Le Tala Ia Lelei ma Leaga...I aso anamua sa mau ai i se tasi a'ai se uso e to'a lua. O igoa o lea uso o Lelei ma Leaga. O lala masani o le fai fa'ato'aga. Ina ua matua le tama o Lelei sa fai lea lona to'alua, ma ua nofo'ese i le aiga o lana ava. A o Leaga sa faia pea lana fa'ato'aga.
Sa puapuagatia lava le tama o Leaga i lona ma'umaga i le gaoia e tagata. Sa manatu loa le tama e ao ona fai o se toagafiti ina ia iloa ai po o ai lava le fa'aleagaina lona ma'umaga. Ona ia talosaga atu lea ia Tagaloalagi e fesosoani mai. Ona tu'u mai lea e le atua se tupua ia Leaga. O le tupua o le Lulu. Ona aumaia lea e ia le Lulu ma ua fa'atuina i le aoa sa tu i le ma'umaga, e va'ava'aia po o ai lava le amio leaga.
Ona sau lea o lelei; ua va'ava'ai atu i le tupua, ona ia fa'apea ai lea, "O lo'o mamalu le atua i le aoa." Ua mavae sina itula, ona te'a lea o lona fefe ma ua gaoi lava le ma'umaga. Ua tutu lava le Lulu, e le gaoioi. u asiasi e Leaga, ua gaoia fo'i lona ma'umaga. Ona toe alu fo'i lea o Leaga ma ua aumai le isi manu. O le tuli lea, ma fa'atu i luga ole aoa. Ua toe sau fo'i le tama o Lelei ma gaoi le ma'umaga, a e tutu le tuli. Ona toe asiasi mai lea o Leaga ua gaoia lana talo, a e tutu lava le tuli, e le gaoioi.
Ona manatua lea e Leaga le tasi togafiti. Ua ia tatui tuaniu i totonu o talo. Ua o'o ina toe gaoia o le maumaga, ona alu ai lea o Leaga i le aiga e Lelei. Ua tau atu a o fai le suavai a le aiga. Ona fa'apea atu lea o Lelei ia te ia, "Sau ia, ina 'ai i la matou mea ua uma ona saunia." Ona alu atu lea o Leaga ma ua 'ai. E tago atu Leaga ma totofi le talo; o i ai le tuaniu i totonu o le talo. Ona fai atu lea o Leaga, "Se, sole Lelei, o oe lava lena e so'ona gaoia pea lo'u ma'umaga." Ona ma ai lea o Lelei, i le ua fa'apea atu. "Lo'u uso e Leaga, sau ia, aua e te ita. E amata mai nei o le a muamua pea lou igoa i a taua mea uma, e ta'u ai taua,."
O le mea lea e ala ai ona muamua Leaga ia lelei. E fa'apea se upu a se tagata ie se faiga'ai, "E leaga, e Lelei tele le faiga'ai" po o le upu fo'i fa'apea, "E Leaga, e le Lelei."

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6/17/2002

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MAFUAAGA OLE IGOA SAMOA;NA MAFUA MAI ILE SETETE O NEW YORK,AMERIKA.SA IAI SE UGALII E SUAFA IA SA MA MOA NA NONOFO I QUEENS, NEW YORK.NA LA FANAU SE FA'AFINE MA FAAIGOA IA SAMOA.INA UA LAVELAVEA LE UGALII ONA UA UMA FOOD STAMP MA WELFARE ALE MALO ONA FA'AAOGA SESE SA LATOU A'AU LOA I SAMOA MA FAAIGOA AI SAMOA O SAMOA.IA MANUIA LAVA LE ASO MA ONA LAASAGA ESESEE

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6/17/2002

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Ia Malo lava Li'i New York!!!

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6/17/2002

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O sina fautuaga mo oe 6/17,1:19; fa'aaoga sa'o le gagana Samoa pe afai o oe ose Samoa moni. Pei ole upu ugalii,ole sa'oga ole upu ole ulugalii.O le isi fo'i upu ole fa'afine,ole sa'oga ole upu ole afafine.

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6/23/2002

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6/27/2002

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I have no myth nor a legend...I would like to compliment those who actually attempted to share their versions of the story....Most Samoans where Im from do not know the difference between Upolu from Savaii...I FEEL THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON..DONT YOU..
But to get to the point...Samoa is and will always be Samoa...We nor anyone else can change past events..We can only work together as ONE people to glorify THE CULTURE, and THE TRADITIONS, Let's not dwell on an issue(TUIMANUA) that on one but GOD holds the answer..FINDING THE ANSWER TO SUCH A COMPLICATED ISSUE SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE FAMILIES THEMSELVES..

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6/30/2002

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If what u said is true, Lefiti n Sotoa were sons of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Then answer this, Where were they when Malietoa came to Manu'a to claim his Tulafales in the 70s. Who stood up againt Malietoa. Without those people u called iole you'll have no pride to be manukan. You'll full of ashame to be Manukan. If Tuimanu'a Salofi is alive,he would kick Lefiti n Sotoa out of Manu'a.

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6/30/2002

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If what u said is true, Lefiti n Sotoa were sons of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Then answer this, Where were they when Malietoa came to Manu'a to claim his Tulafales in the 70s. Who stood up againt Malietoa. Without those people u called iole you'll have no pride to be manukan. You'll full of ashame to be Manukan. If Tuimanu'a Salofi is alive,he would kick Lefiti n Sotoa out of Manu'a. Don't be mad be glad

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6/30/2002

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If what u said is true, Lefiti n Sotoa were sons of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Then answer this, Where were they when Malietoa came to Manu'a to claim his Tulafales in the 70s. Who stood up againt Malietoa. Without those people u called iole you'll have no pride to be manukan. You'll full of ashame to be Manukan. If Tuimanu'a Salofi is alive,he would kick Lefiti n Sotoa out of Manu'a. Don't be mad be glad

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7/1/2002

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In response to 6/30/2002 11:49:22.First of all Malietoa didnt come to claim his Tulafale.He came to plant a coconut tree in Malatele.U know howI know this?Because he was staying at my Grandpa house,Ale's residence.Have u heard the saying "o tala o Manu'a e tu'u taliga mt tu'u tauau".Please dont let other people know our history.Thats why Manu'a is unique.Ia manuia ma ia soifua.

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7/1/2002

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If Lefiti n Sotoa were true sons of Salofi, then Where were they at when Malietoa came to manu'a in '70s to claim his tulafales? Do u know the story? The so called ioles stood up against Malietoa to defended your pride to be Manukan. The true sons of Tuimanu'a stays in Manu'a and tautua le nu'u. Tuimanu'a left long time ago and his last words " Ia outou fealofani" Those words are written on Tuimanu'a tomb in Luma,Tau Manu'a. Soifua

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7/1/2002

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In response to 6/30/2002 11:49:22.First of all Malietoa didnt come to claim his Tulafale.He came to plant a coconut tree in Malatele.U know howI know this?Because he was staying at my Grandpa house,Ale's residence.Have u heard the saying "o tala o Manu'a e tu'u taliga mt tu'u tauau".Please dont let other people know our history.Thats why Manu'a is unique.Ia manuia ma ia soifua.

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7/1/2002

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7/1/2002

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If Lefiti n Sotoa were true sons of Salofi, then Where were they at when Malietoa came to manu'a in '70s to claim his tulafales? Do u know the story? The so called ioles stood up against Malietoa to defended your pride to be Manukan. The true sons of Tuimanu'a stays in Manu'a and tautua le nu'u. Tuimanu'a left long time ago and his last words " Ia outou fealofani" Those words are written on Tuimanu'a tomb in Luma,Tau Manu'a. Soifua

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7/1/2002

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If Lefiti n Sotoa were true sons of Salofi, then Where were they at when Malietoa came to manu'a in '70s to claim his tulafales? Do u know the story? The so called ioles stood up against Malietoa to defended your pride to be Manukan. The true sons of Tuimanu'a stays in Manu'a and tautua le nu'u. Tuimanu'a left long time ago and his last words " Ia outou fealofani" Those words are written on Tuimanu'a tomb in Luma,Tau Manu'a. Soifua

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7/1/2002

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In response to 7-1-2002.12;08,please dont post any more message about Lefiti and Sotoa or any Usoal'ii from Tau.All you're doing is putting our buisness on the streets.Let me remind you this forum is for Myths and Legends not for somebody to degrade other Human beings.So,next time u get on your computer please say something productive.

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7/2/2002

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O ai ia tagata? O fea outou te o mai ai? Afai o outou ni aiga ali'i, fa'apefea ona outou amio fa'apea? Fa'apefea ona outou le fa'aaloalo? E le'i atoa se tausaga talu na maliu le ali'i o Lefiti ae ua amata ona fai outou tala! Ta'ino'inoe, le amanaia, le fa'aaloalo. Ae o ni tagata tuafanua fia ali'i!

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7/2/2002

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Sina was the daughter of a couple, both apparently called Pai, dwelling at Mata-faga-tele. One day Sina found a young eel, which she kept and reared in a coconut shell. The eel grew, so that the coconut shell grew too small, and she changed it for a kava-bowl. The bowl growing too small, she kept the eel in a spring at Maata'a. It filled this spring, so she kept it in a bigger, and a bigger, and yet a bigger spring. At the side of the last spring grew a beautiful tree, the fruit of which was called pua. Sina picked the fruit and threw it into the water, and herself entered the spring, swimming and gathering the fruit together. While she was so doing the eel struck her and pierced her with its tail. Sina was angry, and in displeasure went to Savai'i; but the eel left the water and followed her; and through all the land, where Sina went, there too went the eel. It followed to Upolu, coming there as the sun was sinking in the west. Its shadow was cast eastward, and the district that lay under the shadow was called Laloata.
The people of Fuata, as the whole of the district was called, determined to kill the eel. Poisonous leaves of the lalago-tree were gathered, bruised, and mixed with water in a bowl. When the eel saw that his death was meditated he called Sina, and said to her, " I know that poisoned drink will be brought to me. Therefore, O Sina, if you love me you will, on my death, claim my head as your share. Bury it by a Tonga stone wall, and from it a coconut palm will grow for you. O Sina, you will have leaves for the plaiting of mats and fans with which to ensnare the monsoon and show your love for me. Thereupon the eel drank the prepared drink and died. Of Sina, since she had been pierced by the eel, this song was sung:
Maiden Sina, daughter of Pai, Thou hast plucked the pua-fruit and flung it in the water. Swimming thou hast gathered it, And by the tail of the eel hast been shamed.

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7/3/2002

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Sina, The Eel and The Coconut (Variation)
The mother of Sina went down to the sea to draw salt water for cooking purposes. A small sea-eel adhered to her coconut-shell water bottle, and she took it home as a plaything for her daughter Sina. She fed it, keeping it in a cup; but the eel grew, and they dug a pond for it. One day Pai and his wife returned from some plantation work, and found Sina crying, as the eel had bitten her. Fearing it must have become the incarnation of some cruel deity, they determined to leave that place.
Away the three went eastward; but when they looked round, there was the eel, out of the water and following after them. " You make your escape," said the father to his wife and Sina; " I will remain here and raise mountains to keep it back." Sina and her mother went on, but when they looked over their shoulder, there was the eel again, still following after them. Then the mother said to her daughter, " You make your escape alone; I will remain here and raise mountains in the way of the creature." Sina went on alone, but the eel followed just as before. As she passed through the villages the people called her in to rest and have a little food; and she agreed to do so provided that they would try to deliver her from the pursuing eel. When they heard that, and saw the creature, they said, " Oh, no; you had better pass on ; we are afraid of that thing."
She thought escape impossible, and gave it up, turning again toward her home. As she passed through one of the villages east of Apia the people called the attention of the chief to the young woman passing, followed by an eel. He told them to call her in to have something to drink. She said she would gladly do so if they would only get rid of the eel. " Yes, come in; we can do that," the chief called to her. She went into the house ; the eel remained outside. The chief gave orders for the preparation of a cup of 'ava (kava) for the strangers, and quietly whispered to the young men to bring from the bush all the poisonous things they could find to mix with the drink. Soon the 'ava was declared ready to hand round.
"Give the first cup to the stranger outside," said the chief to the young men; and out went one of them with the cup for the eel, which drank it eagerly But immediately the creature called to Sina to come outside; and when she went out it said to her, " Since I am dying, let us part in peace. When you hear that they have cooked me, ask the head as your share. Take it and bury it near the stone wall, and it will grow up into a coconut-tree for you. In the nuts you will see my eyes and mouth, and so we shall still be able to look at each other face to face. The leaves of the tree will be a shade for you, and you will be able to plait them into mats and fans."
Saying this, the creature died, and was soon in the oven; and when it was served up Sina begged the head, took it home with her, and buried it near the stone wall. It grew up into a coconut-tree, and she got her leaves, and mats, and fans, and nuts; and the nuts were marked with the eyes and mouth of her departed eel, whose face she could still touch with hers.

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7/3/2002

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Talofa!!! I would like to share this story...
"O le tala i le Ve'a ma le Tuli"
Sa fa'auo le Ve'a ma le Tuli. Sa nonofo fa'atasi i laua i le fale e tasi. Ona o'o lea i le isi aso, ua fia 'ai i'a le Ve'a. Ona fai atu lea o le Ve'a i le Tuli e la te o e fagogota. Fai mai le Tuli, ua lelei.
Sa o'o loa ina la fagogota, na o le tamo'e atu le Tuli ile aloalo. Ona o'o lea ina utia lona vae e le faisua. A o le Ve'a e fagota e mamao atu te isi. Sa fai loa le tagi o le Tuli e fa'apea, "Ve'a e, Ve'a e, alu ia i lo ta fanua e aumai ai o ni ma'e se lua, se'i tu'i a'i la ta faisua. E 'ai ma oe le fua male sua, ae 'ai ma a'u le tigi faisua."
Sa fa'alogo loa i ai le Ve'a, sa tamo'e mai o ia ma ni ma'a, ua tu'i ai le faisua. Ona la o ai lea i lo la fale ma le faisua. Sa fai loa la la me tausami, ua ave le tigifaisua ma le Ve'a, ae 'ai e le Tuli le fua ma le sua. Ua tiga le loto o le Ve'a, ae sa leai lava sana mea e mafaia.
Ona o'o lea i le tasi aso, sa toe fai fo'i le tonu o le a la o e fagogota. Ua toe fai fo'i le amio e le Tuli o le oso i lea mea ma le mea. ua o'o fo'i ina ua toe utia lona vae i le isi faisua. Toe tagi fo'i le Tuli i lona tagi muamua. Sa fa'alogo mai i ai le Ve'a, a ua le toe alu i ai. Sa alu lava ia gauta i le fale. Ua o'o ina ua sua o le tai, ua mate ai loa le Tuli.
O le mea lena ua le toe fealofani le Ve'a ma le Tuli e o'o mai i le aso nei.

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7/3/2002

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Talofa!!! I would like to share this story...
"O le tala i le Ve'a ma le Tuli"
Sa fa'auo le Ve'a ma le Tuli. Sa nonofo fa'atasi i laua i le fale e tasi. Ona o'o lea i le isi aso, ua fia 'ai i'a le Ve'a. Ona fai atu lea o le Ve'a i le Tuli e la te o e fagogota. Fai mai le Tuli, ua lelei.
Sa o'o loa ina la fagogota, na o le tamo'e atu le Tuli ile aloalo. Ona o'o lea ina utia lona vae e le faisua. A o le Ve'a e fagota e mamao atu te isi. Sa fai loa le tagi o le Tuli e fa'apea, "Ve'a e, Ve'a e, alu ia i lo ta fanua e aumai ai o ni ma'e se lua, se'i tu'i a'i la ta faisua. E 'ai ma oe le fua male sua, ae 'ai ma a'u le tigi faisua."
Sa fa'alogo loa i ai le Ve'a, sa tamo'e mai o ia ma ni ma'a, ua tu'i ai le faisua. Ona la o ai lea i lo la fale ma le faisua. Sa fai loa la la me tausami, ua ave le tigifaisua ma le Ve'a, ae 'ai e le Tuli le fua ma le sua. Ua tiga le loto o le Ve'a, ae sa leai lava sana mea e mafaia.
Ona o'o lea i le tasi aso, sa toe fai fo'i le tonu o le a la o e fagogota. Ua toe fai fo'i le amio e le Tuli o le oso i lea mea ma le mea. ua o'o fo'i ina ua toe utia lona vae i le isi faisua. Toe tagi fo'i le Tuli i lona tagi muamua. Sa fa'alogo mai i ai le Ve'a, a ua le toe alu i ai. Sa alu lava ia gauta i le fale. Ua o'o ina ua sua o le tai, ua mate ai loa le Tuli.
O le mea lena ua le toe fealofani le Ve'a ma le Tuli e o'o mai i le aso nei.

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7/7/2002

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UA TELE TAGATA E SESE LE FAAMATALAINA O LE AIGA TUPU O MALIETOA. LONA NUU, MA ONA AIGA......I WANT SOME INFO ABOUT THAT GENERATION PLEASE IF SOMEBODY KNOW HOLLA BAC ON OUR BOARD......

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7/9/2002

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IA TALOFA LAVA O LENEI TALA E UIGA NI TAGATA SE TO'A LUA O LE TASI E AGAMALU MA LOTO FA'AMAUALALO A'O LE TASI E FIA SILISILI MA LOTO FA'AMAUALUGA E USO I LA UA INA UA FANAU MAI I LA UA AE SA VAVAE ESE INA NEI TAGATA E TO'A LUA ONA OSE MEA UA TUPU ILE TAMA MALE TINA UA AVE ESEINA NEI TAMA I TULIMANU E FA OLE LALOLAGI MA INI MASINA E SO'O AI NA MALILIU O LA MATUA....TAUSAGA UA MAVAE UA FAI AIGA NEI TAMA E TO'A LUA UA FAI AIGA LA FANAU MA FANAU AL FANAU MA FANAU FOI A LA FANAU INA UA TUPU MALO TUPU MA PULEA E NEI TAMA MALO O LO'O PULEA I LA PULEAGA UA A'AVE TALA ILE MALOLOSI O NEI TUPU E TO'ALUA ILE LALOLAGI ATOA ONA MANATU LEA OLE TUPU MALOSI MALE FA'AMAUALUGA E AO ONA IA PULEA LE LALOLAGI ATOA...INA UA O'O TALA LE TUPU LOTO MAUALALO I LENAI TALA ONA FA'ANOANOA AI LEA O LONA LOTO SA IA FA'ALELE SE LUPE SINA MASE FEAU ILE TUPU MALOSI...O UPU A LENEI FEAU....UA E PULEA MEA E TELE I LOU MALOSI AE PAGA LOU FIA SI'I TAU I LO'U MALO UA OU TALI I LOU MANAO AE O LEA OUTE MANAO E TAU NAO I TAUA I LUMA OLE FANUA TAU O O'U OFU TAU E SILIVA MA LAU FUA E PAEPAE TUSI AI LO'U IGOA ILE LANU MUMU...INA UA TU FETA'I NEI TOA I LUGA OLE MAUGA OLE OTI UA FA'ALALA LA AUPEGA INA UA VA'AI MAI LE TUPU MALOSI ILE FU'A A LENEI FITAFITA ONA FESILI AI LEA O OE LENA OLE TUPU FEALOFANI SAMOA I O A'U LENEI ONA MALINI AI LEA O LOIMATA OLE TUPU MALOSI...O A'U LENEI OLE TUPU O FEALOFANI SAMOA II...ONA FA'APEA ATU AI LEA O LANA TALA USO; uso; E LE SILI EA LE NATE PULEA LONA LOTO..ILE TOA NA TE A'EA LE OLO ...ALOFA I OU TINO MA AANO OLE FIGAGALO OLE TAMA ILE LAGI E TU'UA NEI MEA UMA I LALO NEI E SAU ASO AE ALU ASO......ALOFAGA MO OUTOU UMA MAI LE FEALOFANI SAMOA I MALE FEALOFANI SAMOA II..''WE ARE SAMOA IN GOD WE TRUST''...GOD BLESS AND TOFA SOIFUA ALOFA DU U ALL....IN RESPOND TO THE ANGER..AND FIA TAGATA TO ONE ANOTHER.. OLE TOTO E TOTO'O I LE OLE VAI.....TOFA

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7/9/2002

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7/10/2002

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damn everyone arguing up in this mug, damn where did all the love go...what happened to our samoan people...oh well ill pray for yall

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7/14/2002

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the idiot who said the shark and the turtle were the result of an old lady and grandaughter not been able to feed the king jumped in the ocean is utter nonsense!it was a couple,man and woman who did not adhere to the kings wishes therefore runing away to sea only to be seen at a certain time of the day,hence the result of that common phrase that is sung by children of many generations.

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7/14/2002

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7/24/2002

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Malo lava 7/14/02 12:19
You are so right, it is a couple...
O le tala lenei mai le matou aiga o Letuli.

"O le tala i le Maelie male Laumei"
Sa i ai se ulugali'i talavou lava, i ona po ole saua o Malietoa Faiga; na nonofo i le itu i toga o Savai'i o Fonuea, o le igoa o le fafine, ae ua le maua le igoa o lona Tanene.
Ua o'o ina iloa e le Tane o le a fai le aso o le Tupu ia te ia. Sa alofa tele i isi ona to'alua, a e ui i lea ua manatu e sili ona la malaga pea i ai le Tupu, a ia sao le la nu'u.
Ona la o mai lea mai Savai'i i le laua paopao. Ae teiane ua la le taunu'u i Upolu i le mea oi ai le Tupu. Ae ua lelea le la va'a i Tutuila i le matagi. Ona la nonofo ai lea ma le ali'i o Letuli i Ili'ili i ni masina etele.
Sa agalelei tele le ali'i ma lona aiga ia te i laua. O lea ua la faapea ifo i o laua loto, po o le a se mea e taui ai le alofa ma le agalelei o lenei o ali'i ia i laua.
Ona o'o lea ina ua ifo le aso o Malietoa, ona sauni ai lea o le aiga o Letuli o le a toe momoli i laua i le laua aiga i Savai'i. Ona faapea iai ai lea o l tane ia Letuli: "Faafetai tele i lau Susuga ma si o outou aiga mo le tausiga o i maua ma la'u ava. O le a ma le toe fo'i i lo ma nu'u, ae se'i fai sina aoga mo lau Susuga. Malie mai lou finagalo, o le a ma faia se mea e lauiloa ai oe e le lalolagi atoa."
O lea ua la o loa ma feesofi i le papa i Vaitogi i le sami. Ona liu Laumei ai lea o Fonuea, ae liu Malie lana Tane. Na tautala a'e le Malie i tagata o le nu'u: "A outou manao' ina ma o a'e i luga ile fogatai, ia o mai tamaiti ma pepese ai."
O le pese lenei e usu tamaiti:
Laumei faiaga ma sulu ma si au tama, oi ai le moega afa Fa'i mai, fa'i mai o se lauti e aulelei E lavalalava le laumei, Apa e, Laumei Apaapa le Laumei, apa e, Laumei.
Fonuea, Fonuea, laulau mai se mamnamea Po'o sai o i luga nei? O Sa Letuli o i luga nei A uaina, A laina, a solo e mata'ina, Laulautu ia le i'a. Siususu Galu sasa, tama'ita'i, maliu a'e; Susu a'e; le uale; tigitigi mai oe Fa'amata'u mai Samoa; le pu ia manu e. Teuteu le ana le Laumei, ele pu ia manu e.

Talu mai ai e o'o mai i nei ona po ua o atu sa'o tamaiti i le papa maualuga ma pepese ai, i le ua o a'e lava le Malie male Laumei i le fogatai e tusa ma le la folafolaga.

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7/24/2002

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Malo lava 7/14/02 12:19
You are so right, it is a couple...
O le tala lenei mai le matou aiga o Letuli.

"O le tala i le Maelie male Laumei"
Sa i ai se ulugali'i talavou lava, i ona po ole saua o Malietoa Faiga; na nonofo i le itu i toga o Savai'i o Fonuea, o le igoa o le fafine, ae ua le maua le igoa o lona Tanene.
Ua o'o ina iloa e le Tane o le a fai le aso o le Tupu ia te ia. Sa alofa tele i isi ona to'alua, a e ui i lea ua manatu e sili ona la malaga pea i ai le Tupu, a ia sao le la nu'u.
Ona la o mai lea mai Savai'i i le laua paopao. Ae teiane ua la le taunu'u i Upolu i le mea oi ai le Tupu. Ae ua lelea le la va'a i Tutuila i le matagi. Ona la nonofo ai lea ma le ali'i o Letuli i Ili'ili i ni masina etele.
Sa agalelei tele le ali'i ma lona aiga ia te i laua. O lea ua la faapea ifo i o laua loto, po o le a se mea e taui ai le alofa ma le agalelei o lenei o ali'i ia i laua.
Ona o'o lea ina ua ifo le aso o Malietoa, ona sauni ai lea o le aiga o Letuli o le a toe momoli i laua i le laua aiga i Savai'i. Ona faapea iai ai lea o l tane ia Letuli: "Faafetai tele i lau Susuga ma si o outou aiga mo le tausiga o i maua ma la'u ava. O le a ma le toe fo'i i lo ma nu'u, ae se'i fai sina aoga mo lau Susuga. Malie mai lou finagalo, o le a ma faia se mea e lauiloa ai oe e le lalolagi atoa."
O lea ua la o loa ma feesofi i le papa i Vaitogi i le sami. Ona liu Laumei ai lea o Fonuea, ae liu Malie lana Tane. Na tautala a'e le Malie i tagata o le nu'u: "A outou manao' ina ma o a'e i luga ile fogatai, ia o mai tamaiti ma pepese ai."
O le pese lenei e usu tamaiti:
Laumei faiaga ma sulu ma si au tama, oi ai le moega afa Fa'i mai, fa'i mai o se lauti e aulelei E lavalalava le laumei, Apa e, Laumei Apaapa le Laumei, apa e, Laumei.
Fonuea, Fonuea, laulau mai se mamnamea Po'o sai o i luga nei? O Sa Letuli o i luga nei A uaina, A laina, a solo e mata'ina, Laulautu ia le i'a. Siususu Galu sasa, tama'ita'i, maliu a'e; Susu a'e; le uale; tigitigi mai oe Fa'amata'u mai Samoa; le pu ia manu e. Teuteu le ana le Laumei, ele pu ia manu e.
Talu mai ai e o'o mai i nei ona po ua o atu sa'o tamaiti i le papa maualuga ma pepese ai, i le ua o a'e lava le Malie male Laumei i le fogatai e tusa ma le la folafolaga.
Ia manuia le aso!!! God is good all the time!!!
God bless and have a beautiful weekend!!!

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7/24/2002

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Sorry about the spelling of Maelie, should be Malie.
theres also other typo error...
faamagalo!!!

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7/24/2002

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Sorry about the spelling of Maelie, should be Malie.
theres also other typo error...
faamagalo!!!

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7/29/2002

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7/29/2002

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The story of the Sea Turtle and Shark, was told to me by my Mother long ago, as an explanation to why they are seen together swimming around the islands. The version I was told had nothing to do with a "King" but of family negligence in not feeding the "old" and the "young". Of course this goes against Samoan tradition of Aiga.......does anyone else have a different version? this is quite interesting!
My family is from Upolu, Savaii and Tutuila. Pritchard,Tuitama, Sa'mia, Li'u

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7/30/2002

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I too would like to know of Fatu ma Futi..... but please, in english.

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7/30/2002

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I don't know if this will answer all of 6-14-02's questions about the turtle's origin. Back in the 50's the old women in Fagatogo told this story..... Once there was this blind old lady and a very young grandson. She had no living children and he had no parents.They lived alone and were fed by their nearest relatives. Of course there were hard feelings among the aiga towards these two. The old lady was past her prime to be of any help to the aiga and blind ontop of that. The grandson was good for nothing because of his age. Why should we feed them? This was always asked among the families. One day, later than usual, prepared chicken was brought up to their fale. By then the grandson was so hungry he almost ate before his grandmother asked " Why does it smell different?". At a closer look, the boy said with tears" Grandmother, it's a cooked rat!" The grandmother gathered her tapa cloth around her and prayed to the gods to protect her and her grandson. She took him to the cliffs nearby and said to him " There will always be food for you, my son and I will always be with you". They jumped from the cliffs and when they touched the ocean, the boy changed into the shark and the old lady into the sea turtle. The turtle carries her tapa cloth markings and the shark is always eating. When you spot one, the other is not far away........Yes, the turtle is a woman's charm as you can see in our earrings, bracelets and necklace. This is the story I grew up hearing even after I left Samoa. My mother always repeated this tale to us all......Does anyone have another?

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7/30/2002

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The turtle has a noticable tapa pattern. Naturally that's where we copied it from. The word Makua referring to elderly woman? Hey, when did we aquire the letter K in our alphabet? What is the letters in the alphabet.......sorry for my ignorance, so please enlighten me

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7/30/2002

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From: ~*~!§$u3§~*~
For Everyone,
You knoe, to tell you the truth, this is my first time here in this web site. I was searching for some Samoa Reicpe's to cook for this up coming trip to go see my family in LA. But to see everyone use the word "UFA", I just wanted everyone to knoe that the word ufa is not even that strong to tell you the truth. There are more worst words than this. Boi, I'm telling you the truth, these words, ufa, kefe, fufu, kai, and ai'kai aren't "bad words" and for those who knoe the real bad words, should knoe the truth about everything. My parents, both are from both sides. Amerika and Western so all I can say is, there is no diffrence between Amerika and Western samoa because both of dem are: SAMOA. Samoa is one. Get Dat Shit Straight. Other den dat, stop dah gossip because no one wants to hear it. If you post a story, post a story, don't make it worse by making other people mad. If you think dah story is wrong, you re-write it the way you heard it. Dah story will never end. Just like dah Bible, dah bible goes on and on and on. You'll never knoe dah truth. That's why their are so many churches. It's because too much gossip and disagreements. Be some real samoans and stop dah shit talkin. How bout dat. Dis ain't no 2 cent of mine. Dis is reality......Samoa is supposed to be the pearl of the pacific. We're supposed to be the happiest island in the whole pacific ocean, so don't show this kind of attitude and mess things up. Show polynesia that we're better than that. This is for those who abused this sight by cursing and for those who said, "your wrong dis your wrong dat", be a real samoa and roll your ie lava lava up alittle more. Shutting dah door on all yall......Dayum.......gone
LoVe dAh OnE aNd OnLy:dAt OnE cRaZy GuRL ~*~!§$u3§~*~
ps. you got's somefing to say to meeh, e-mayo meeh samoanz_stb@hotmail.com or issues1oner@yahoo.com. "E O a'u ole samoa a e"

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7/31/2002

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Does anyone know the names of the old gods and how we they worshiped? Christianity only reached the islands in early 1800's. What was our religion before?......Was Tongaloa one of them? Come on now, start asking the old people, they might remember old stories.

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7/31/2002

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Request to 7-14-02, Malo lava.......please retell that tale in english. Tried to follow in samoan but my translation is not doing full justice to the story. I've lived out here in palagi land (Illinois) so long that english now is my 1st language. Yes I know, its terrible to lose one's heritage and samoan language is very colorful.... E pala ma'a, 'ae le pala'upu.....did I say it right? Samoan2

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8/1/2002

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How did the LILOMAEAVA title come about? Is there a story behind it? (Sorry if error in spelling.) Surely there's an interesting story behind all the titles floating around Samoa, especially after this month's big debate!!! If there is a story, it belongs on this page and should be shared. Different versions are always welcomed when seeking information on cultures, it helps in understanding the "phsych". This is a perfect opportunity for us all, to print out these stories to share with next generation. REMEMBER, THIS IS MYTHS AND LEGENDS, not a fact finding document!
History Buff

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8/1/2002

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8/5/2002

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Listern!!! This is for all you uneducated people that are using this net to air out your frustration of(FIA SAMOAN). You might ask how I know this, that your'e an uneducated people? Well because if you were a true Samoan, you would have never open your mouth and allowed your stupid self to discuss our beautiful Samoan Legends the way you people did. My advise, TOE FOI E MAFUTA MA MATUA.

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8/5/2002

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Listern!!! This is for all you uneducated people that are using this net to air out your frustration of(FIA SAMOAN). You might ask how I know this, that your'e an uneducated people? Well because if you were a true Samoan, you would have never open your mouth and allowed your stupid self to discuss our beautiful Samoan Legends the way you people did. My advise, TOE FOI E MAFUTA MA MATUA.

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8/5/2002

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8/5/2002

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8/6/2002

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this is exactly why the generation x isnt allowed e maoga i luga le mouth i fono a toeaiina, i fono a matai.... too much lapisi... ia o legei ma le ga... dis and dat... all rubbish... if you are frustrated ....frustaration... please look for a frustarted people site where you can unload all this destructive rubbish coz i for one dont want to read it.... people with no brains talk about people... critics.... hypocrites.... people with brains talk about ideaz.... yes ideaz... very constructive....how to make samoa a better place... to raise the standard of living of the malo people..... how to become a better person... why am i always frustrated..... why i always what where how when and so on...... eu muamua le utupoto o lou mata ona eu ai lea o le utupoto o le mata o leisi ou uso a tagata..

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8/6/2002

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about our old gods.... it was prophesised that a new god will arrive to samoa.... and that our people will worship that god and that god is our present heavenly father..... IEOVA... tagaloalagi was just a god that our people made up when they arrived in samoa from somewhere thought as south east asia or where ever..... a part of our culture and it was through our culture that we now have SAMOA.... e faavae i le ATUA samoa./... samoa is founded on GOD and i am so pround that we are founded on god.... trust me i had the same thoughts too but then i realised that we have only occupied the islands for some time and its ours but....there is only one true god and i have only one true savioour and that is Jesus.... dont say youre a samoan and youre not founded on god coz the old wise men of samoa chose god ...IEOVA..... to be our god... it was prophessised and here we are..... love one another and trust in god and everything will be sek reli.... enjoy and trust in god... think a minute....
hamohart007@yahoo.com

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8/7/2002

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Thanks for data 8-6-02....about the old gods. The few individuals who insist on name calling should do us all a BIG favor and STAY OFF this page.

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8/7/2002

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Thank you (hamohart007)for your insight about the old gods. Would anyone else like to give an input?

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8/7/2002

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Thank you (hamohart007)for your insight about the old gods. Would anyone else like to give an input?

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8/7/2002

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WHERE ARE THE STORIES?????

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8/8/2002

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Interested in hearing about our beginnings, not what is now but what was before us. Do you realize how vast the Pacific Ocean looks? And to sail in a rigger canoe to settle on these islands, quite a feat even with modern technology.

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8/10/2002

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Out of all the traditions, I have yet to understand the individuality of the SIVA. Everything else is done in conformity to a group, even our art has no individuality away from the other islands. Like our ava bowl designs can be found among the Fijians or our weaving among the Micronians, Tongans our Tapas. I guess we're the only ones doing the fine mats......

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8/11/2002

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Responding to 8-5-02, contraction of "you are" is "you're"! 8-6-02, you need a social science page and leave generation X to themselves!

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8/11/2002

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4:16:20 PM

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It's always interesting how samoans take palagi's at their word and completely the opposite to each other. You put the effort forward to a foreigner that you never give your own kind!!! That's why you end up getting the likes of Margaret Mead, Roger Green and Mormons writing as if they are the authority on SAMOANS......okay, are we Fijian Melanesian descendants or not??

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8/13/2002

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is it true that the "ulua'i tumua" is from Alepata.

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8/14/2002

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Where's the Samoan Myths & Legends?
Do we have sssoooo much hate for each other that we have to take every comments to heart?
It's sad that people think that we're the one of the most friendlist and happiest people, but in reality we're really not.
Let's try to stick to the topic.. Samoan Myths & Legends not Samoan Hateful & Disrespectful!!!!

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8/18/2002

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Nearly three thousand years ago, the the Samoan Islands were settled. It wasn't until the early 1820's that christianity came in the form of missionaries. Yes, just like Mitchell's "Hawaii"! Now, if there's a historian out there who might also be into theology, how did samoans view and practice religion?

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8/18/2002

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P.S. OOPS! My question was meant for the time BEFORE, missionaries came in 1822.

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8/19/2002

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Could you please help me i'm looking for infomation about Tamafinga the King of Samoa, around 1818 to 1829, 1830 the Tyrant,all aroun bad guy.I here one story and it goes he was killed by a passing group of warriors then the people of Manono say he was killed by his aigai the people of his Island why the difference and please no bad words thank you

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8/20/2002

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i died

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8/20/2002

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9:02:35 PM

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I would like to know what happened to my question about Tamafinga, dose any one now any thing about him thank you

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8/20/2002

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I would like to know what happened to my question about Le Tamafinga, dose any one now any thing about him thank you

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8/22/2002

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Reply about Tama'figa.....the version I was told is similar to your second. The story is he wanted to dine on one of the children in the village. Assuming it was one of his relatives, since it was the young men of the village that killed him for such a request!.......Does anyone know for sure the truth of his death?......My family from Tutuila passed this story around. The Upolu part of my family didn't speak of him.

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8/22/2002

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10:35:39 AM

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In the smaller islands cannibalism was practiced, it was out-lawed during the time of King Maloe'tua, who also banished the Tongans from Samoa and their influence, he greastest achievement was in uniting the samoan islands.

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8/22/2002

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I too, am interested in any info about the "island Gods" before the conversion to Christianity. No one wants to discuss anything before 1830, or in a very sadden case, no one knows???

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8/22/2002

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MY FATHER TOOK HIS LILOMAIAVA TITLE TO THE GRAVE. WE STILL HAVE ONE BROTHER IN UPOLU WHO TOOK OVER FOR DAD. I ASSUME ITS A TITLE ONE EARNS AND NOT PASSED ON.....AM I RIGHT? .....FROM STATESIDE

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8/22/2002

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To: 8/22 10:35 sorry but Samoa has never had a King Maloe'tua. Neither has there been a united Samoa.

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8/23/2002

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Okay, the spelling is off......Malietoa???.... But it was he, who united the chiefs from the western islands to defeat the Tongans out of Samoa. If you were referring to American Samoa and Western Samoa...I wasn't!....Cannibalism was also put down by this same King, all before the first papalagi saw the samoan islands.......

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8/23/2002

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Okay, the spelling is off......Malietoa???.... But it was he, who united the chiefs from the western islands to defeat the Tongans out of Samoa. If you were referring to American Samoa and Western Samoa...I wasn't!....Cannibalism was also put down by this same King, all before the first papalagi saw the samoan islands.......

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8/25/2002

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Long, long ago, there was a king who owned chickens that was Forbidden to be eaten by anyone. Another king coveted those chickens and stole them. The first king persued the second all the way to the 12th heaven. To honor the first king's determination of the chase, the islands were named Sa'Moa......... Forbidden Chicken........We could have ended up with Holy Chicken!!!ha ha ha

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8/25/2002

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Long, long ago, there was a king who owned chickens that was Forbidden to be eaten by anyone. Another king coveted those chickens and stole them. The first king persued the second all the way to the 12th heaven. To honor the first king's determination of the chase, the islands were named Sa'Moa......... Forbidden Chicken........We could have ended up with Holy Chicken!!!ha ha ha.....Is there another version to this story?.....Apelu

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8/25/2002

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Can anyone explain the CANNIBALISM?....Was it ceremonial or just a common practice?...U2

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8/27/2002

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Hey, that's a pretty cool story of how our islands were named.........that close to being "Holy Chicken"!?!.....There's got to be another story out there of how we got our name......anyone?

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8/28/2002

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I don't know about you, but I don't really feel that my people's origins were because of Chickens. I like to believe that Samoa comes from a family that has ties in Manu'a. It sounds more HUMAN if you ask me.

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8/28/2002

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I am sorry, but I still believe that there never was a united Samoa. Even after Malietoa, the islands of Manu'a never paid homeage to a Malietoa. How do you explain that? Furthermore, how do you explain the claim that Tuimanu'a was once the king of all Polynesia?

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8/29/2002

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Manu'a is not one of the western islands,and surmising from what the old people say, every interputation depends on which island one is from. Even this column shows how different the lengends were told. King of all of Polynesia?........???

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8/29/2002

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Homage or not, we still have the Malietoa's as our King and Head of State.......and, we are a Free and Independent Country!

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8/29/2002

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The story of the forbidden chickens was to honor the EXTENT of the CHASE, not explain our origins! but the NAME!.....Translate the word SAMOA and you'll see.

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8/29/2002

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I think cannibalism was still practiced in the early 19th century........I could be wrong....I hope I am.

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8/29/2002

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Tuimanu'a is a very high title indeed. But consider all the kings from the different islands. Who paid homage to whom? Upolu, Savaii, Apolima and Manono(all Western Samoa) were the ones united to battle the Tongans out of Samoa. Upolu is where this Malietoa started the battle cry to unite. Of course when I typed Samoa, I meant Western Samoa!

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8/29/2002

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Sure of course they united to oust the Tongans out of the islands. But what you fail to remember is that the Tongans never occupied Manu'a. Why do you think that is? I am sorry don't try to down play the importance and sacredness of the Tuimanu'a titles. Besides, there are titles in Upolu, Savaii and Apolima that are older and much more important than the Malietoa title. However, foreign influence has been able to manipulate our thinking to make them inferior.

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8/30/2002

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What you fail to remember...8-29-02, 6:02:52 PM... is that, you are the only one bringing up Manu'a. Is there a point to this? The islands that were involved have already been named by 8-29-02, 1:58:28 PM. You're right about foreign influence, they made you an american samoan.

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8/30/2002

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Tutuila is a 3 hr. ferry ride and Manu'a twice as far east and much smaller. Could be why the Tongans didn't bother But hey, we're getting away from what this page is all about. That story of the holy chickens,(that's amusing)confirms there were chickens on the islands back then, so why the cannabilism?

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8/30/2002

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Samoa is the heart of Polynesia, we were the Begining! Artifacts dug up from our islands shows nearly 3000 yrs of settlement. Hawaii nor Tahiti or Tonga as well as New Zealand polynesians can prove any later dates than ours. The person who wrote King of all Polynesia has got me stumped? Maybe you mean among the islands of Ofu, Olosega and Tau and maybe even Tutuila? While arguing your case, try not to down grade any titles. You've insulted the Malietoa's title. I believe the Tuimanu'a titles are among our highest But you've besmirched it with this type arguement!!!

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8/31/2002

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When Western Samoa was fighting the Tongans, why wasn't this king of all polynesia in on the battle?.....was he Fijian?.....maybe Tongan? The Malietoa's are still here, and has guided Western Samoa into this millineum, as an Independent Country. Where are the others???.....and mind you, Malietoa is a very ancient title!!!

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8/31/2002

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Back to the how Samoa was named. You know, that's the only story I know of that explains how our islands were named. The chase took those kings to the 12th level of the heavens. My father explained that the word Sa is closely translated into the word Forbidden. On Sunday you are forbidden to work, so the word Sa. Of course Moa is chicken. I too eas afraid it was Holy Chicken.....

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9/2/2002

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Malietoa is indeed a very old Samoan Title from Manono then hows is it Malietoa is not aloud to set foot on Manono is it some thing that happened along time ago or is it resent I would like to here the truth thank you

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9/4/2002

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I'm not sure if 8/31/02 9:58 knows their history, because last time I checked Tuimanu'a was in existence long before the Western islands HAD to gain freedom from the Tongans, which in turn was the event that brought forth the Malietoa title. Prior to this event, where was the Malietoa?

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9/4/2002

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There was a Malietoa living about 1000 to 1100 ad I read this in a book The Samoan Islands by Dr Kramer When the Tongans were forced to leave our lands the King called out to Tuna and Fata and called them Malietoa, hence the Title that is here to day. My father is from Manono and the story I was brought up on was Tuna and Fata had a tunnel which went from Salua Manono to Upola and this is how they surprissed them and won.I have been told that our family had been split a long time ago. I am a High Matai and the last part goes Aigai Le Malietoa yet I have been told to be ready to fight because there seem like they dont like it.yet My family has been around for a very very long time, hence Aigai Le Tai. I am a New Zealand born Samoan and am very proud to be a Samoan so for the last couple of years I have been reading some very old books writen by all sorts of people so you have to be carful what you end up beleaving. Here are some good ones I hope there will help some of you wonderful people out there.(Samoa a hundred years ago) ,Dr Geoge Turner.(Margret Meads making and unmaking of a myth)Derreak Freeman. (Old Samoa) Rev John B Stair. Brother Henry. Mckay (Samoan). (The Samoan Island)Dr Kramer. This is where (I) think we as Samoans came from. Moses yes he led 20 to 40.000 people to the promised land and where did there go Samoa. I was reading one of those books and it went on about our structure and how uncanny how mucn it resembled theres, leader ship, punishment, all sorts and to end this with TuiManua is and will all was be a very High Title.

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9/5/2002

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Hey, doesn't it phase anyone that cannabilism is in our culture? Is it still practiced?......and where?

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9/5/2002

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Once again, let's not belittle any Titles, whether or not you respect them is not the issue here. Sounds like all of you should go back and do more research and let the rest of us get on with Samoan Mythology.

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9/5/2002

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Why is it when someone is just trying to clarify the fact that there is a heirarchy of titles within our culture, we are "belittling" other titles? Secondly, last time I checked Fa'asamoa was an ORAL culture, so just cause you read something in a BOOK written by some PALAGI doesn't mean it was actual or factual. We need to stop analyzing our culture according to western ideals and methods. So if you're going to reference Kramer, I'm sorry but it has no weight if you ask me. I'd rather learn about our history from the people who live it, not a bunch of palagi's who think they know Samoa just cause they lived there for a couple of months or years. Again, I was not criticizing you, I'm just being a consciencious objector.

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9/5/2002

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I would love to beleave in what you say but the people on Manono say one thing and what the children are taught in our schools are two differant things.To read Kramer you would not us it as a guide to Samoa but all infomation is ralervent wether it came from that silly women Margret Meeds or Rev JB Stair of all the books Stairs has to be one of the top books I have read. A Rev who arived in Samoa in 1835 one of the first white missioners when writing the book he wrote it as a man not as a Rev Because some of the things he writes about are unbeleavable things that his church would not accept, ghosty things the power that our ansesters had, just because he is a palagi dose not mean he is or was wrong. ALL information has to reserched weather it be from a Tongan or palagi and extra attention from our own people.

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9/5/2002

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Believe what you like...you, like so many others are conditioned to believe what you read. You, like so many conformists, have the passive attitude that allows other people to dicatate what SAMOA is. You see the inferiority of our culture through Western glasses, yet fail to appreciate the complexity that is Fa'asamoa. Many cultures continue to "develop," yet the basic fundamentals of Fa'asamoa have remainded in tact for centuries. I may sound close minded, but I am far from being so. I am just tired of countless people trying to tell me what my culture is, is all!

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9/6/2002

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Samoa have one God before the missionaries ivaded our islands. His name is Tagaloalagi. With this one God come its persona; which were known in many forms, such as Tagaloafaatupunu'u, Tagaloapapatu, and ect. They reside on a mountain know as "Mauga o Ao" which is located in Manua. In those days the highest mountain was also consider heaven. There a name Samoa was originated too. Tagaloa had a son by the name of Moa. He violated one of the Taboo and was exbell from heaven. He was send down on earth and was told never to return as a punishment. With this expulsion from heaven the name Sa-moa is now come to identified our Islands. Ua Sa Moa ona toe foi i le lagi. In theory, Samoan people originate from North East Asia. They migrate south through Fiji and than to our Islands. The belives goes that Togans and us were colonized by the same people. That's why our words are so similar. Even in our art form. Our people than move up north to Hawaii. Some historian belive that Samoan went as far to the Margase Island. The proofs of this finding are reveal on the totem on the Island. This also answers the question about our size. During those days the healthiest people are the chosen ones to make the trip. Because of the long and harse voyage the bigger people were chosen. That's why we are healthier than most people of the world. hehehehe! If this still baffle to your brain than stick with Gerome Grays theory. Are people are from the sun.. The Malietoa title begins after the Togan people were defeated. It was a fearwell speech by the Togan king before he sail of defeated were the title took shaped. "Malie Toa Malie Tau" were some of his last words. With saying that, Malietoa title is old but not the oldest title in Upolu and Savaii. One more thing, Malietoa was never declared as King by the people of Upolu and Savaii. The people recornized the title as "ONE" of the highest in the region but not as a king. Yes, He is the Head of State by title but not a king. Tuimanua was a king and his people were never concured by any force. That little foot note is in the Samoan history books written by the white man.. Yes, they are under the United State but if you read the Deed Of Cession that the King signed. It reveals his cleverness. It was all under his terms. Don't get offended I'm just stating the facts. I hope this will help answers some of your question.. God bless our people.

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9/6/2002

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Thank you very much for your clarification...finally!!!!

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9/8/2002

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A man left for work one Friday afternoon. But it was payday, so instead of going home, he stayed out the entire weekend partying with the boys and spending his entire pay check.
When he finally appeared at home on Sunday night, he was confronted by his angry wife and was barraged for nearly two hours with a tirade befitting his actions. Finally his wife stopped the nagging and said to him, "How would you like it if you didn't see me for two or three days?" He replied, "That would be fine with me."
Monday went by and he didn't see his wife. Tuesday and Wednesday came and went with the same results. But on Thursday, the swelling went down just enough where he could see her a little out of the corner of his left eye.
How's that for a myth...hehehehe

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9/9/2002

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Good one!!!

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9/11/2002

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i respect the "PALAGI" for even considering to write a book on our SMALL A ZZ ISLAND...i mean...peep...The palagis introduced our people to the whole entire world...if the books they write contain inaccurate information...let it be...AS SAMOANZ, we should do more research ourselves..But ne wayz..tatou loto faatasi..fealofani le isi uso i leisi uso...vaai...u really are not going to learn more about your culture if u just depend on someone else to give u info on a message board...the truth lies within the samoan people's heart..by this i mean...our heart is our elderly, they are the only ones who can give us somewhat of a truthful and credible answer to our questions...

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9/12/2002

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Believe what you like. I am afakasi, but I in now way claim my palagi side. I don't know about the rest of our brothers and sisters who visit this site, but I don't recall ever asking the Palagi to introduce us to anything. In fact they took it upon themselves to "civilize" us. But you know what? I have learned that we were better off living the life we once lived because palagis are now learning that many of the things that we did in the past benefited everyone. Now they are trying to teach us how to be self reliable by teaching us the old ways. How's that for irony? We have become so westernized that if the western governments did not provide aid to us, we'd be lost. So if you still wanna thank the palagis for making us dependent on them, then go right ahead!

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9/14/2002

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We were civilized before the Palagi got here. Civilization is a brod subject. So I think that the Palagi are the uncivilized ones, not us.

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9/16/2002

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thank you for your sentiment, but I implied that these people assumed they were more civilized then Samoans. Now, they are trying to incorporate the practices that our people have had long before any contact with palagi. In closing, I'd only like to thank the palagi for setting us Samoans back a hundred years!

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9/19/2002

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Please elaborate more about setting us back a hundred years. In essence we were civilized before the Palagi got here, but remember that the world is still evolving despite our sentiment; so with the intruder (Palagi), we are now enjoying some of it's goods. The good things outperformed the bads.

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9/21/2002

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Sorry to those of you that want to read on about myths & legends, but I'd just like to make my feelings known too.(PLEASE BEAR WITH ME, THANKYOU) I think discussion is always a good thing. We may all be Samoan but just like other peoples of the world we have our own personal beliefs(right or wrong). It's always nice to give people the benefit of the doubt, dispite are own haste to evaluate them. I am a Samoan & part palagi from the generation y. To me Samoan history & culture will always be in my heart no matter what is said & done by anyone. Let us not beat a dead horse & mar the history & legacy of our ancestors that came before us with hate, power, greed and manipulation(seek truth,respect,and love). It's sad that we can't settle on something like our history, myth and legends for the sake of future generations to come. It's just a dis-service to them. I mean come on take a look at the world around us. Koreans seperated by ideology; Islam being perversed by fanatics, lets get serious people. What about the Samoans suffering in poverty, with drug-abuse, violence, and struggling with a sense of identity. Like the tomb of the last Tu'i Manu'a reads, "Ia outou fealofani". Now this guy I think said it best and was right to end the title because I think he understood one thing, and that is "CHANGE". I believe he had the foresight to understand that Manu'a and Samoa had to change and adapt to the comming of the new. Sure, some of you claim palagi this and that, but look palagi was comming sooner or later(like it or not). Let's not belittle ourselves or rush to racisists remarks. If someone inquires and seeks understanding of Samoa lets teach them. I had no one to turn to to look for history of my own people, so I did my own research. In in my research I learned that Tagaloa was the creator to our ansestors and he resided in Manu'a and somewhere along the line the Tuimanu'a was the highest spiritual title in Samoa. There were others throught Samoa who had titles too, but theirs was on a communal level. the Tuimanu'a title was held in high spiritual regard because it was believed to have been divine in nature. Other cheifs honored this. Now Samoans back then & now differ in beliefs and actions according to where their from, just by the fact that it's human nature to feel that way. Samoa was basically seperated by the Western islands, tutuila and the maun'a islands. Every body did their own thing, then the Tongans came and stayed for some 100+ years in the western islands. Now who wouldn't be pissed if an uninvited guest came to our house without our permission? Eventually the people on the western islands backed the Malietoa & other chiefs to oust the Tongans. This was the change that lead to the power struggle in Samoa eventually the Malietoa became if you like the main title(not spiritual). Now tutuila back them up on this but they were worried about there own business. Maun'a and the Tuiman'u never got involved with the war effort or the whole power sruggle which occured after the Tongans left. Because from what I read the Tuimanu'a didn't want his peoples to be involved in war & he was peaceful. Now the Maleitoa was in a kind of control as far as real power went in Samoa but there was never a "KING", for example King Kamehameha in Hawai'i. Samoans always had respect for others and respected the spiritual nature of the Tuimanu'a title. After that the Palagi's came and here we are. We were introduced to Jesus and other beliefs. To see the faith christianity brought to Samoa is beautiful. As for the talk about brothers and Leftiti & the sons and titles I haven't a clue. My mother is from Faleaso. My fathers name is Moliga and he's from Ta'u so I guess I'm a Manu'ain-(american)Samoan. For the sake of argument: If my dad's name was Lefiti and I lived in Fitiuta; if I were from Apia and the nephew of Malietoa; or if I lived in Fagatogo and the Governor was my uncle it wouldn't matter to me beacuse were all Samoans, human beings and let's not forget that. Live your life. Honor God. Speak your heart and your mind. Perpetuate culture. Spread Love and Tolerance. My version of the history might not be accurate and I understand this, And some things we may never know. Thanks for reading, Saite mospin79@yahoo.com

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9/24/2002

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am new here and just a curious reader, are the myths told here only related to the myths in American Samoa, because it seems like most of the legends exploited here are from Manu'a. Just wondering, and i think it would help a little if these debates arrives to a conclusion. Interested people are curious and would often want to know the truth or at least something close to what really happened. Thanks curious reader

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9/24/2002

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is there a problem if most of the stories are related in some way to Manu'a? I don't see why there should be, Manu'a has long stayed silent and it's about time that our voices were heard.

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9/24/2002

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No freakin problem at all, like i said im just curious, it's my first time here and it seems like most of the legend told are from Manu'a. But it definitely dont mean that i would rather prefer to hear legends of other villages from Samoa. Peace out

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9/25/2002

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The truth of the matter is that the foundation of most story derived from Manua. To understand your history first you must know the origin. An old famous Samoan song goes like this; " O le ua na afua atu i Manua ua lanu ai Samoa uma". Ask your parents and they will confirmed my memoirs. Ask them!

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9/25/2002

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so u are saying that all the other stories or legends in Western Samoa and American Samoa all take root from Manu'a? curious reader

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9/25/2002

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9/25/2002

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so u are saying that all the the whole Samoa is rooted from Manu'a? curious reader

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9/26/2002

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Curious readers got a point, surely stories a from all over samoa. By legend samoa may be rooted in manu'a. Does anyone have another versions of the roots? peace

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9/26/2002

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You know...many Samoans from the Western islands always say "fai mai a manu'a o latou na muamua." The funny thing is...it's true!

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9/27/2002

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Come on now! I'm not saying that all the legends are from Manua, but the Genesis of Samoan legends are from Manua. For your curious mind I'll give you some facts. The family of Tagaloa reside in Manua. The titile "TUI" was a gift from the king Tuimanua which is now famous around the Pacific. The first talking chief was from Manua. I can go on and on but I'll close with just saying this; that even the sun rises from Manua. "E iloa lava le Toloa i ona fulu".

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9/27/2002

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Seriously, does the sun rise from Manu'a? because if it did then how come we are days behind other countries? Or are you talking about when it rises in our country? And what significance does it have with Manu'a being the rooted village for all samoan legends? for the sake of argument

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9/27/2002

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Yes to everything you wanna argue about...just for the sake or argument

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9/28/2002

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lol good one 9/27/2002 but i think that even for arguments sake we should clear what is said in here because it's on the net and practically the whole world (well if the advertisement of this site was done expertly) so it would be a good idea to make clear what is expressed. amused reader

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10/1/2002

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I was hoping to read about old ghost stories i use to hear when i was a child, the ones about staring in the mirror at night, the jealous ghost that would go around pulling any pretty girls hair in the villages...does anyone remember those?? I also have heard about cannabilism in the old days.

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10/1/2002

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10/9/2002

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Tagaloalagi was God in those days and he controls everything even the sun. Tagaloa wanted himself to be the first in everything; So he wanted to see the sun first rise from Manua where he resided.

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10/11/2002

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Don't tell me that you still buy that. Maybe he was a god in those days but the chances of him controlling the sun is just too outrageous. Some things you just have to be realistic about even if they were original legends passed down for many years, those may even be questioned. Let's be realistic, if you wanna prove that the sun rises from Manua then at least come up with logic reasoning.

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10/11/2002

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Don't tell me that you still buy that. Maybe he was a god in those days but the chances of him controlling the sun is just too outrageous. Some things you just have to be realistic about even if they were original legends passed down for many years, those may even be questioned. Let's be realistic, if you wanna prove that the sun rises from Manua then at least come up with logic reasoning.

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10/13/2002

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I kinda agree to 10/11/02 especially with the religion we have nowadays. For somebody who believes strongly on God and his creation, it's hard to accept that somebody other than God himself who made the sun, controlled the sun however he wanted to. Just like the previous person said, its too outrageous.

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10/13/2002

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I kinda agree to 10/11/02 especially with the religion we have nowadays. For somebody who believes strongly on God and his creation, it's hard to accept that somebody other than God himself who made the sun, controlled the sun however he wanted to. Just like the previous person said, its too outrageous.

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10/15/2002

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I guess the issue here is not if it's plausible, but what our ancestors believed in. Now that we are educated and have "seen the light" we have the right to criticize and downplay the beliefs of our forefathers? Come on, get off your high horse, and stop spouting Western mumbojumbo. The problem is, Samoans now days are still the same Samoans of old who were not content with the way of life that they had. You my friend are what we call, fia palagi. No, I am not blind, nor am I unrealistic. I'm just sick and tired of Samoans who have educated themselves and after having acquired their education see only the defficiencies in our culture, rather than the riches found with in it. It is difficult to prove, according to Western standards and means, that Manu'a was the origin of Samoa. But has it never dawned on you that perhaps the Western islands' stories of origin were edited along the way to fit how Western society proves whether something is truth or falsehood? I have heard many times that many a matai's ties to the aiga were fabricated to fit their agenda! How can these people not do the same?

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10/15/2002

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10/16/2002

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christina filipo loves oskar vaoa

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10/16/2002

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christina filipo loves oskar vaoa

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10/16/2002

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nina maria washburn loves jeff tuiletufuga \

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10/16/2002

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Nina maria washburn from sacred heart college loves jeff t from tawa college

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10/16/2002

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letitia bell is in love with alex tui from naenae collisi

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10/16/2002

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hello well i just want to say that the legend about the boy named moa and his sister named lu is a great story well whoever write that is an awesome person because at sacred heart college it is a great legend for my topic for english.well whoever reads this keep on writing good myths...

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10/16/2002

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Julia Bell From Naenae College loves Ene Alo From Saint Bernards college

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10/16/2002

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I LOVE SAMOA

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10/16/2002

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melissa leota loving tyrone pilitati from st patrick golisi. their wedding is on the 17 april. then they will have a baby daughter who she will call, letitia and then a baby son who they will name alex

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10/16/2002

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melissa leota loving tyrone pilitati from st patrick golisi. their wedding is on the 17 april. then they will have a baby daughter who she will call, letitia and then a baby son who they will name alex

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10/16/2002

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i think that since these r samoan legends that you should do it in samoan

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10/17/2002

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ufa lou komo tago i lou muli ok this message is to who eva wrote the message on 16/10/2002 at 8:10:14 pm

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10/20/2002

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melisasa loves letitia

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10/21/2002

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Dang what the hell is wrong with 10/17/2002 at 8:46:17pm. What is wrong with what 10/16/2002 said. It's only an opinion it dont need no hatin on it.

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10/23/2002

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coming from another island...
i'm not samoan...but i'm an islander...just passing through doing some "island history" & i got caught up with all the story telling...and the many different opinion. I read that myths and legends are better told than written. and when it is 'told' from generation to generation...things tend to alter...but the idea behind the "talk story" of these myths and legends is that it IS myth..growing up in samoa helps. I think all of you are lucky to have known or be told your stories. keep passing them on...it's the only way to keep your culture together....thanks.

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10/23/2002

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i'm sorry christina, i don't like you cause you're not my type and i like melissa tevale and she has she has everything i need.. sorry maybe next time or maybe never oskar vaoa
ToFa sOiFuA

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10/23/2002

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hey everyone i just want to say that every comment that i have just read, we shouldn't be writing about stupid thing in this website.. it's good to read stories from the past but not love stories in the comments.. i just want to say that we should give this website a good name not a name that could bring relationships on this website wats up... in the fua... well to those readers reading this whoever wrote that piece of s@#! is a stupid individual.. tofa soifua

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10/26/2002

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10/27/2002

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Somewhere along my upbringing, Manua should have been mentioned, but can't recall! Born in Upolu you'd think I'd remember!?!...,..You can't be Samoans!?.....Your King, gave your islands away?.....All kidding aside, why are there TWO Samoa's?.....answer anyone?

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10/28/2002

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to oskar, i never did like you i was just browsing through this website, well why are you writing this on this website because this is going out to out in public well anywaes i think that i am too good for you you looser tofa soifua from sum-1 who deserves better

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10/28/2002

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telesia tevaga loves jerome sialau from bernads college...

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10/28/2002

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to oskar, i never did like you i was just browsing through this website, well why are you writing this on this website because this is going out to out in public well anywaes i think that i am too good for you you looser tofa soifua from sum-1 who deserves better

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10/28/2002

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i just wanted to say i love jeff

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10/29/2002

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well hey everyone i just wanted to say that i really do enjoy reading through the comments that our people are writing about.... well hey everyone keep it up...

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10/29/2002

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this message is to the bitch who wrote a message on the 23/10/02. well i don't know any melissa tevale and why the hell do u bring other peoples names on this website so u better get fucked you mother fucker. and this message is to melissa tevale i'm sorry for who eva wrote that nessage with your name in it i'v all ready got a girlfriend...... from: OSCAR SBC

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10/29/2002

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to melissa tevale, just go and get your own man you looser and by the wae, get a life and i reckon that ny mate christina deserves better not from sum-one who is a slut or a whore.... okay.... well anywaes Oskar does not know a girl named melissa tevale.. okay... he only knows a christina.... sorry everyone who is reading this.. i just don't like people who want to mess around in this programme and think that they are the mantis in everything okay everyone out there.. well i just don't want my friends to get hurt.. with their love life and everything.. sorry to all those readers out there for my violence in this programme.. fuckerfekae

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10/30/2002

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Its disheartening to see that "Samoans" are keeping true to thier proud nature. Putdowns are what we seem to be good at. Not only of each other but of other peoples. I know becos I am half Samoan and half Tokelaun. And becos I live two lives its caused me to keep away from my Samoan family gatherings becos of the pretentious smiles and hugs and kisses that I see. I love both my families but I know who I want around in times of pain and sorrow - my Tokelaun side. I doubt very much that all Samoans are like this....but in general - we are not very nice people at all...and it is shows. It is embarassing and it shames me. Why is it that we use this forum to put shame to our name? I have browsed thru and found a few good comments - note "few". When are we going to embrace one another and as a nation and as a people? Its even sadder to see that some names have been mentioned in this site - you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Your level of maturity astounds me. I have no doubt that many of our friends have read this site and are wondering the same things....WHO IS WRITING this rubbish?....more importantly - who cares who loves who etc etc? You need to grow up and think seriously about the damage you might be causing.
Tai ni - I hope I have not offended you - this is meant to challenge you and make you think. There is too much disharmorny going on.

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10/30/2002

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Was there a TuiManu'a legend? And why is not been mentioned from the palagi? or maybe palagi didn't want to write it down because it was so full of it..lol Or maybe the Manu'a people didn't know how to speak english but Upolu did. If Tuimanu'a was the king of all the samoans islands, ...then maybe that's explain why the people in Samoa act the way they do...selfish..ignorent oh! by the way, I know that mostly everybody that is running the government of American Samoa are from Manu'a, the governor Tauese and etc..but why not the Tutuila natives. Well, all I know the government is corupted cause the people that's running it are from Manu'a. But, what I heard, those people are not helping the Manu'a island but their families...So, all I'm sayin, I go by what is written and that's Western Samoa stories and what I like to know but not about who and who is high like the Manukans always wanna be first on everything. To, my Samoan people just look at our poor government right now still waiting for their money for the federal taxs from 1999 til now.. And is all because the government is corupted cause is running from a Manu'a brother and that's why all this manukans are fighting on the web cause those are the kind of people they really are.....HATERS! Peace Out

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10/30/2002

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Was there a TuiManu'a legend? And why is not been mentioned from the palagi? or maybe palagi didn't want to write it down because it was so full of it..lol Or maybe the Manu'a people didn't know how to speak english but Upolu did. If Tuimanu'a was the king of all the samoans islands, ...then maybe that's explain why the people in Samoa act the way they do...selfish..ignorent oh! by the way, I know that mostly everybody that is running the government of American Samoa are from Manu'a, the governor Tauese and etc..but why not the Tutuila natives. Well, all I know the government is corupted cause the people that's running it are from Manu'a. But, what I heard, those people are not helping the Manu'a island but their families...So, all I'm sayin, I go by what is written and that's Western Samoa stories and what I like to know but not about who and who is high like the Manukans always wanna be first on everything. To, my Samoan people just look at our poor government right now still waiting for their money for the federal taxs from 1999 til now.. And is all because the government is corupted cause is running from a Manu'a brother and that's why all this manukans are fighting on the web cause those are the kind of people they really are.....HATERS! Peace Out

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10/30/2002

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uummmm whre are the myths and legends please.
Sydney Australia.

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10/31/2002

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E faatalofa atu Samoa!!!! I just want to say that as i was having a look at this special sight I thought of the things that was mentioned in it. Hey, we shouldn't be fighting against each other in our heavenly father we are all one. I really admire this sight because it's the history of Samoa and it's important to me. So, whoever wants to tell a myth and legend go ahead but please make sure you have your facts right. Thanks

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11/1/2002

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I am amazed at the postings on this site. I am Samoan, raised in the States, and I have endured the many comments about who's the most important title in Samoa. I am not fluent in the fa'a Samoa, and I have spent most of my life in the US. Yet, I have researched my family for a lot of years. My grandmother is from Manu'a. Her father was from Ta'u and her mother was from Si'ufaga. Interesting enough, the content and passion of some of your postings resonated within me, and its those postings I can detect a family member. As an observer and someone who was raised in the mainland, a lot of what you have posted would make no sense. On the next level, you have the Samoans who do not understand the importance of history...and what our ancestors have done. Nevertheless, western influence has greatly affected our culture, and to give so much credibility to the palagis diminishes any contributions that our people have made in forming our history. Western Samoa has had the advantage of the Germans and the British providing us with a written history. I appreciate the photos, stories, and interactions that they have provided us. I also am proud that Western Samoa has gain independence and is a country on its own--(is it a Commonwealth of England, like New Zealand? Just asking). And to the brother who quoted Kramer, I have seen his genealogies that he has posted about Manu'a, and they are false. He had never spent significant time in Ta'u, and received his information from a chief from Tutuila. And what is more evident than anything, is that Manu'a keeps their legends to themselves. I appreciate the stories of Tuimanu'a Salofi, and the Lefiti and Moliga title. And I also appreciated the humor and put down of those specific titles because I have heard the elders in my family describing those titles as wiping butts, too. So, that person that posted that must be one of my relatives. Nonetheless, it's given me a greater understanding and appreciation of the stories and legends that was passed down onto me--what you would label me as a "palagi". I am proud to be Samoan even though I was raised here in America. I smile when I see the debates and cutting nature of our people because it helps me understand who I am. We feel with great intensity, whether it'd be love, loyalty, hate, and especially anger. I have compiled all the information from family members and the palagi records from old missionary journals, and this site has taught me to keep it with the family. To my family from Ta'u--Luma & Si'ufaga--I have a great love and appreciation for you, and pray that one day we will meet...and I will show you my book of what my grandmother's brother has left me.
Peace...and my people, let's play nice in the playground

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CORRECTION FROM 11/1 I'm sorry, I meant to say...my grandmother's father was from Luma...credibility is a big deal and I claim fatigue as influencing my error...

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11/3/2002

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Play nice in the playground & take turns on the see-saw. lol 11/1

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11/3/2002

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yip wat eva

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11/3/2002

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To all the people thet are writing crap on this website you's bring shame to the samoan people.you don't have any respect for your own culture i know all of you's and you don't want me to write what i know about you's so you's better sow some respect!!!

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11/3/2002

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To all the people thet are writing crap on this website you's bring shame to the samoan people.you don't have any respect for your own culture i know all of you's and you don't want me to write what i know about you's so you's better show some respect!!!

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11/4/2002

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I started reading comments from 5/2002 but got so caught up in the drama that I forgot why I even checked this out and then I remembered. I did my short cut and found the end and so here I am. I am a samoan, born in samoa but raised in the states. I am now attending a samoan class at a nearby university and our assignment due tomorrow is to find a samoan legend that we would like to share with the class. Well, I didn't find much success with this site but I did learn one important lesson from reading a few enteries. With all the influence of today, it is more important then ever that we try to maintain our culture, whether it be through legends, songs and music, or language."Little things contribute to great losses."

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11/4/2002

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hey everyone out there i have just read sum of the drama that is happening out there and i just want to say hey where are the fob myths and legends well you shouldn't have these luff to luff sites here well take my advise if you can't find luff out there ring 4993248.. and to everyone out there go hard but give the samoans a good name... aiiight.. Wellingtone Niu Sialan

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11/4/2002

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nina mria loves jeff hunkin

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11/4/2002

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for all the samoans out there always respect your cultue and remember that you are pacific islanders and also show the people out there that you are from the island of samoa

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11/5/2002

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I love you all!

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11/6/2002

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Having been in-search mode most of the afternoon for Myths and Legends of Samoa...this would be an excellent forum to hear from different generations... I had a palagi friend researching with me and reading as I went along... Im saddened by the debate that appeared sparking conflict... I hope to continue visiting this page and seeing the material Im searching for come to light.... Im part Samoan raised in NZ... and raised deliberately palagi... and for all that...you cannot stop the call of *home* nor the desire to connect with culture... my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ and Samoa... God bless you and your houses in abundance...take care...
In service...
T Sefuiva

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11/6/2002

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hey every1 out there chill take a pill man simmer. i thought this web site was for some samoan myths and legends.I just wanted to say don't do your stupid love life on this web site this web site was created for MYTHS AND LEGENDS only k.
Thans alot bye Have a good DAY OR NIGHT

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11/6/2002

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hey every1 out there chill take a pill man simmer. i thought this web site was for some samoan myths and legends.I just wanted to say don't do your stupid love life on this web site this web site was created for MYTHS AND LEGENDS only k.
Thans alot bye Have a good DAY OR NIGHT

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11/6/2002

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hey everyone out there this is my first time reading this website why did you guys write stuff about me here i don't know who the hell you guys and i don't even know anyone named jerome sialau.. if you read this jerome i just wanted to say that i am sorry that they wrote s@#! about you and sorry man i don't even know you.. well anywaes if you read this the person who wrote about me i'll make sure i'll get you back.. sorry everyone out there who is reading this.. well anywaes go hard out there everyone.. telesia tevaga

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11/6/2002

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Talofa Samoa,afai ete fia iloaina se tala e uiga ile nu'u lea o Manu'a,fa'amolemole fa'afesota'i le numera(206)677-3558

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11/6/2002

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E muamua ona ou fa'atalofa atu Samoa,E peisea'i ose taimi muamua lea sa ou faitauina se tala e uiga ia Leasau,Nua ma Moliga.Ae ou te fa'apea atu,afai ete leiloaina le tala sa'o,fa'amolemole aua ete pepeloina samoa.ae fa'amolemole afai ete fia iloaina le tala sa'o,ona e telefoni mai loa lea ile numera lea(206)Ta'u Manu'a.

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11/6/2002

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E muamua ona ou fa'atalofa atu Samoa,E peisea'i ose taimi muamua lea sa ou faitauina se tala e uiga ia Leasau,Nua ma Moliga.Ae ou te fa'apea atu,afai ete leiloaina le tala sa'o,fa'amolemole aua ete pepeloina samoa.ae fa'amolemole afai ete fia iloaina le tala sa'o,ona e telefoni mai loa lea ile numera lea(206)Ta'u Manu'a.

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11/6/2002

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I would like to respond to whomever wrote the story about Sauma'iafe...I am from Salepoua'e Sale'imoa, I am somewhat related to Sami and the family. It is very disappointed, that someone have the time to write a untrue story...This is not how Sauma'iafe became the way she is now....You should investigate the situation further more before you took the time to write such a phony story.

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11/6/2002

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I would like to respond to the story about the turtle. Honey, I wish I know who you are? If you on't know the true story about the Turtle, please shut up. You don't even know the village and especially the song......
And whomever wrote about American Samoa people are ufas.....It takes one to know one, sweetheart..I suggest you take a good look at yourself first, then start talking....you don't even have the ball to reveal yourself....This is so embarrasing, that the Samoan people can't even communicate without arguing, and we don't even know who we're talking to.Honey, there is a saying in Samoan, E o o le vao...Let me know if you don't know what this meant...HAVE FUN

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11/7/2002

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In the old days before the white man came to Samoa with all their diseases that kill most of my beatiful people,Samoans were healthy people.My grandfather told me that we use to swim from one island to another as half man half fish.We use to swim to Tonga and Fiji to visit to kill or to find a to'alua. Kamehameha was Samoan "Tamameamea" They built all that heiau "pamaa"on the big island "Upolu point"Kohala coast.Grandfather is gone now but he told me quite a few stories.I really miss my Grandfather.

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11/7/2002

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In the old days before the white man came to Samoa with all their diseases that kill most of my beatiful people,Samoans were healthy people.My grandfather told me that we use to swim from one island to another as half man half fish.We use to swim to Tonga and Fiji to visit to kill or to find a to'alua. Kamehameha was Samoan "Tamameamea" They built all that heiau "pamaa"on the big island "Upolu point"Kohala coast.Grandfather is gone now but he told me quite a few stories.I really miss my Grandfather.

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11/7/2002

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hi i just wanted to say that these myths are really interesting and that i don't have any myths sorry and i just also wanted to say that the other time i visted this website, it was full of all this love crap and i am glad that there is nothing in this site because this is for myths and legends and only for myths and legends

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11/9/2002

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I love you faalausosoo but never faamotumotu...

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11/16/2002

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I sink all off you kuys are ferry stupit for believe to those fings.............do you know dare ish a god?

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11/19/2002

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dose anyone knows about the (TUITELEAPAGA)family in (LEONE) in tutila

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11/23/2002

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hello there! my first time surfing on this site, pretty interesting stories, I grew up in the states, but hear lot's of good story about the three ladies and the main man tuliatua also heard that the white man was tuliatua.

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11/23/2002

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hello there! my first time surfing on this site, pretty interesting stories, I grew up in the states, but hear lot's of good story about the three ladies and the main man tuliatua also heard that the white man was tuliatua.

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11/23/2002

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hello there! my first time surfing on this site, pretty interesting stories, I grew up in the states, but hear lot's of good story about the three ladies and the main man tuliatua also heard that the white man was tuliatua.

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11/25/2002

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Hello people! I'm from New Zealand my mothers family is from Samatau my father is a palagi, I will be in Samoa in the next four weeks, I havent been to Samoa since I was 3, I'm now 25, I've been hearing alot about the 3 evil sister ghosts - and it has got me paranoid, please explain to me the real legend about these ghosts, (and no smart comments please!)

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11/26/2002

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hmmmm veli veli intelesting stolies, was da problemo in hea....i shee unhappy peepoz and commentos, ish me fot dat dis is de myffs n lechens site, if me long den bleeze gorrect. Luff u all me peepoz of samoa..... tehinesamoa

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11/27/2002

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I totally agree with the comments on the 11/26/2002 Please please please no more chickens or kings or turtles or whatever, please tell me the myth about the three evil sisters and nifoloa - now i heard that is some pretty freaky shit!

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11/27/2002

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Fa'atalofa atu i Samoa uma o lo'o fa'aaoga ina lenei site. Ua le fa'aaogaina le gagana papalagi ona o lo'o fa'alologo uma le lalolagi. Ae fa'amolemole atu ie o lo'o fa'aaogaina upu masoa, ua lava loa na upu, aua le toe faia na upu mataga. Fa'amolemole o lo'o iai isi aiga o lo'o iai o latou alo o lo'o asiasi i lenei site, e fia maua ni tala'aga tau isi o tatou atunu'u. O le fesili la? Muamua, afai e iai sau alo e asiasi mai i lenei site, e te fiafia e fa'amatamata sau alo tama po'o sau alo teine i nei upu mataga? Lua, ete fiafia e flogologo uma le lalolagi ae toe faifai leisi samoa lesisi samoa i nei upu mataga etc. Ia tatou iloa, o lo'o tagataga'i mai le malumalu o atunu'u ese'ese i lenei site. Ma latou fa'apea o Samoa ose atu'u o tagata e teletele o latou tino ae valea o latou mafaumafau etc. O le upu asi o tatou atunu'u, e le a'oa'ia e lafu tamafaiga. Famalulu atua i si o tatou atnu'u pea fai ua sala se pati, pe sasi fo'i se upu, ia malu ave i fale i a outou loto ma outou finagalo. Fa'amagalo mai si auauna vaivai. Ia manuia ulu ma ta'ita'i o Ekalesia uma isi o tatou atunu'u o Samoa i sasae ma sisifo, fa'apea ulu ma ta'ita'i o malo, ae maise le malumalu lautele o si o tatou atunu'u. Soifua

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11/29/2002

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11/30/2002

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Fa'atalofa atu ile paia male mamalu ole tatou laupapa ma outou le au faitala valea.
Ua tiga o'u mata ma o'u taliga ini tala fa'avalevalea male le fafaufau e uiga ia Moliga, Leasau ma Nua. A'o a mea a nei tama na fai ia Lefiti ma Sotoa? A'o lea lava o lo'o fai le le mafaufau.
Fa'alogo ia outou, ole a o'u ta'u atu tala tu'u i Malaetele. O Sotoa ma Lefiti, e le oni tagata po'o ni suafa i Malaetele, o tagata ese ma o suafa ese fo'i Sotoa ma Lefiti, e le oni suafa Samoa a'o suafa ese.
O Lefiti, ole igoa Fiti, lona uiga, e sau mai i Fiti. O ona matua o tagata Fiti, e le oni Samoa. A'o le fesili, o lea la ua mafua ai ua fa'aaloalo Si'ufaga po'o Ta'u fo'i ia Lefiti? Ona ole mavaega a Tuimanu'a Salofi i lana fanau, e fa'apea, "Ia outou fa'aaloalo i si outou uso fai o si Lefiti".
A'o Sotoa, ole tama na sau i Ta'u e asi Timanu'a, afe ane loa i Faleasao ile taeao a'o fafaga manu a Matagi. E valaau atu Matagi ile tama lea po'o ai lona igoa, ae fai mai e leai sona igoa ae vaai atu loa ma fa'alogo atu Matagi ua soko sokoa le manu, fai atu loa Matagi, "alu ma lou igoa o Sokosokoa", lea ua fa'apu'upu'u o Sotoa.
Fa'amaoniga ole Tala-Fa'alaniga ole Faleula i Malaetele.
"Tulouna le aofia ali'i ma ona usoali'i Susu Sotoa male suafa o Lefiti", ae afai o ulu ia ole Faletolu, e tatau ona fa'alagi, "Afio mai le afioga Sotoa male afioga Lefiti", a'o lona fa'alaniga ole susu male suafa. Ole a sou taofi e toe sui e oe talatu'u o Malaetele? Vaai oe ne'i ola fa'avalevalea.
I'a se'i fa'auma atu i se isi taimi nai tatou tala ae ia manuia lava le po!!!

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Fa'atalofa atu ile paia male mamalu ole tatou laupapa ma outou le au faitala valea.
Ua tiga o'u mata ma o'u taliga ini tala fa'avalevalea male le mafaufau e uiga ia Moliga, Leasau ma Nua. A'o a mea a nei tama na fai ia Lefiti ma Sotoa? A'o lea lava o lo'o fai le le mafaufau.
Fa'alogo ia outou, ole a o'u ta'u atu tala tu'u i Malaetele. O Sotoa ma Lefiti, e le oni tagata po'o ni suafa i Malaetele, o tagata ese ma o suafa ese fo'i Sotoa ma Lefiti, e le oni suafa Samoa a'o suafa ese.
O Lefiti, ole igoa Fiti, lona uiga, e sau mai i Fiti. O ona matua o tagata Fiti, e le oni Samoa. A'o le fesili, o lea la ua mafua ai ua fa'aaloalo Si'ufaga po'o Ta'u fo'i ia Lefiti? Ona ole mavaega a Tuimanu'a Salofi i lana fanau, e fa'apea, "Ia outou fa'aaloalo i si outou uso fai o si Lefiti".
A'o Sotoa, ole tama na sau i Ta'u e asi Timanu'a, afe ane loa i Faleasao ile taeao a'o fafaga manu a Matagi. E valaau atu Matagi ile tama lea po'o ai lona igoa, ae fai mai e leai sona igoa ae vaai atu loa ma fa'alogo atu Matagi ua soko sokoa le manu, fai atu loa Matagi, "alu ma lou igoa o Sokosokoa", lea ua fa'apu'upu'u o Sotoa.
Fa'amaoniga ole Tala-Fa'alaniga ole Faleula i Malaetele.
"Tulouna le aofia ali'i ma ona usoali'i Susu Sotoa male suafa o Lefiti", ae afai o ulu ia ole Faletolu, e tatau ona fa'alagi, "Afio mai le afioga Sotoa male afioga Lefiti", a'o lona fa'alaniga ole susu male suafa. Ole a sou taofi e toe sui e oe talatu'u o Malaetele? Vaai oe ne'i ola fa'avalevalea.
I'a se'i fa'auma atu i se isi taimi nai tatou tala ae ia manuia lava le po!!!

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11/30/2002

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Fa'atalofa atu ile paia male mamalu ole tatou laupapa ma outou le au faitala valea.
Ua tiga o'u mata ma o'u taliga ini tala fa'avalevalea male le mafaufau e uiga ia Moliga, Leasau ma Nua. A'o a mea a nei tama na fai ia Lefiti ma Sotoa? A'o lea lava o lo'o fai le le mafaufau.
Fa'alogo ia outou, ole a o'u ta'u atu tala tu'u i Malaetele. O Sotoa ma Lefiti, e le oni tagata po'o ni suafa i Malaetele, o tagata ese ma o suafa ese fo'i Sotoa ma Lefiti, e le oni suafa Samoa a'o suafa ese.
O Lefiti, ole igoa Fiti, lona uiga, e sau mai i Fiti. O ona matua o tagata Fiti, e le oni Samoa. A'o le fesili, o lea la ua mafua ai ua fa'aaloalo Si'ufaga po'o Ta'u fo'i ia Lefiti? Ona ole mavaega a Tuimanu'a Salofi i lana fanau, e fa'apea, "Ia outou fa'aaloalo i si outou uso fai o si Lefiti".
A'o Sotoa, ole tama na sau i Ta'u e asi Tuimanu'a, afe ane loa i Faleasao ile taeao a'o fafaga manu a Matagi. E valaau atu Matagi ile tama lea po'o ai lona igoa, ae fai mai e leai sona igoa ae vaai atu loa ma fa'alogo atu Matagi ua soko sokoa le manu, fai atu loa Matagi, "alu ma lou igoa o Sokosokoa", lea ua fa'apu'upu'u o Sotoa.
Fa'amaoniga ole Tala-Fa'alaniga ole Faleula i Malaetele.
"Tulouna le aofia ali'i ma ona usoali'i susu Sotoa male suafa o Lefiti", ae afai o ulu ia ole Faletolu, e tatau ona fa'alagi, "Afio mai le afioga Sotoa male afioga Lefiti", a'o lona fa'alaniga ole susu male suafa. Ole a sou taofi e toe sui e oe talatu'u o Malaetele? Vaai oe ne'i ola fa'avalevalea.
I'a se'i fa'auma atu i se isi taimi nai tatou tala ae ia manuia lava le po!!!

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12/1/2002

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TRUE STORY

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12/2/2002

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Um I'm sure I asked for the three evil sisters story, can someone please explain in ENGLISH! after all this is not a site to lecture people with okay understand' and please have some consideration for those who actually want to know about myths and legends NOT family problems! so please - much appreciation

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12/2/2002

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For your information, this isn't family problems nor was my comment a lecture, that was an explanation of how the two names came to be from our island. With that being said, you my dear have a nice day!! :-)

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12/6/2002

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Long time ago when the Tongan's over ruled Samoa all the warriors had been defeated except a masked man. The Tongans were starting to get affraid of this powerful warrior who was starting to wipe the Tongan regime. One day after a killing spree by the masked warrior they finally cornered the warrior as the Tui Tonga unmasked the warrior and pulled off the cape they had noticed that the warrior was a lady as it had breast so in embarressment the Tui Tonga went back to Tonga in shame

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12/7/2002

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Wow, it took a long time for me to read all the stories and debates on this site. I'd like to run an idea across to the keepers of this site, pls. screen the incoming comments or info. for practical reading material so that time won't be wasted reading materials of nonsense. FAAMOLEMOLE AUA ETE ITA I LAU SUGGESTIONS.

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12/8/2002

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12/8/2002

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I'm writing a story I heard fr. some drunks who were laughing while telling me the story. I was 7yrs old when I heard it so don't call me an idiot or anything like that. At that age one might believe anything. It's probably not true but where did the idea arise fr? ok here it is- Long ago a group of adventures left Samoa seeking what else but adventure. Upon arriving on a chain of islands they found uninhabited, they decided to explore. As the years went by they began to populate the biggest island in the chain then decided it was time to return home to Samoa, Savaii to be exact. Because many of them fell in love w/this place, some of them decided to stay, mainly the very old and the very young, for the voyage was too harsh for age group. So, the adventures left them behind vowing to return some day to populated the rest of the chain of islands in the near future. Those left behind lived in harmony w/the land and w/each other. Years have pasted and the young grew older while the old began to past. The young, now men, asked the old of their heritage and where they were from? The old, by now not having any teeth told them they were from Savaii but could not pronounce it correctly for lack of teeth. So the men of the island decided to name their island the same name of their origin but the old (for lack of dentures) pronounced Savaii w/ an H instead of an S, hence the name Hawaii was born! HEHEHEHE, I know it sound erroneous but what a great story. At age 7, you should have seen the movie my imagination was creating in my head. Eh! don't laugh, if you see a blockbuster movie w/the same story line, well then, you can say, you heard it first on Samoans Myths and Legends! (just leave out the part about the drunks and the 7yr old boy) hehe.... ia manuia lou aiga atoa!!!!!! by: SAMIAM FR. HAMOLAND>

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12/8/2002

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make sense to me. Savaii is our biggest island and Hawaii is their biggest island....hhhmmmmmmmm

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12/9/2002

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Auoi tafefe i le mea ua tupu mai nei! O lea ua tatou misa fa'asoloatoa i suafa maualuluga o Manu'atele.
Na faia i tatou e le Atua ia tutusa tagata uma. E moni o le suafa matai na tu'u mai e le Atua e pulea nu'u ma aiga, a'o le'o ni suafa e fa'alagilagi ai lou fia tagata ma lou fia fa'amaualuga. O a'u fo'i o le i si tagata e tupu mai i se Aiga Ali'i i Manu'a. E TAU MAI FO'I LOU FIA TAGATA MA LO'U NEI FO'I FIA TAGATA, fa'amolemole na faia i tatou e le Atua e tutusa tagata uma. E le'o le maualalo po'o le maualuga, e tasi lava i tatou i le silafaga a le Atua.
O oe na e te faia tala sese e fa'atatau i le matou nu'u (Manu'a), va'ai lou gutu i pi'o. Ua uma ona tatou iloa, e le sala tala mai anamua. O le mea laea e taua ai Manu'a o le MOTUSA!

FA'ALANIGA O TA'U
AFIFIO ALI'I MA LONA USO ALI'I FETALAIGA MAUALUGA IA TE OUTOU TO'OTO'O MA LE MAMALU IA TE OE LE FALETOLU
E pu'upu'u lava le fa'alaniga o le faletolu. A'o laia fa'alaniga ua outou faia nei, aua tou te si'ia le ma'a i luga o le isi ma'a.
if yall have any questions.....i'll be happy to hear from you!!!
and for now...just stay coo' and play safe.
God bless

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12/10/2002

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The island of Manono according to legend was pushed by men from Fiji to Samoa. Does anyone know a scientific explaination as to how it moved? It appears that polynesians make up crazy stories of how things occur.(egMaui pulling up New Zealand)

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12/11/2002

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Please please, someone tell me about the legend about the three evil girls, i know you guys know about that legend,

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12/12/2002

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hey guys hows it goin, well first of all stop the violence man, as many of you already said in the past "this is the Samoan Myths and Legends site" not love connection or see who is the smartest or what ever, just keep it real and keep in mind that we are all Samoans and PROUD if it too, we are all entittled to our own opinions, but aua le fe'aiga'i because that is not our style. Further more for those who just want to shame themselves on the net by sending out there love for who ever, man seriously grow up and get yourself a life, i laugh if your parents saw your names on this site, then "talofae to you" but basically man remember what this site is all about and dont shame or put our culture down by writtiing unecessary things about each other. KEEP IT REAL.
SAMOA TU TO'ATASI.... keep the peace.Keisha

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12/13/2002

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Hey...i am so sad that everybodee been arguin' about who's right and who's wrong...There is a saying in the bible: A po mai le isi alafau fa'a saga ai le isi alafau...This is first time visiting in this web...and I'm so sad of

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12/18/2002

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Yes AMEN! I totally agree with comments from 12/12/02 and 12/13/02, this site is purely for people to tell us about myths and legends NOT problems, anyway can someone please please please! tell me about the myth abou the three evil girls and Nifoloa, thanks heaps

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12/18/2002

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okay this is a reply to the comments made on the 12/13/02, you were saying it says this and that in the bible - then what are you doing on this site? this site is not for christians or for people who believe in God, this site is evil, its what people have to share about witch craft basically and people who think the islands were created by eels or kings or whatever, the truth is - GOD created Samoa not all of that nonsense, and before you ask me what I'm doing on this site - I'm here to tell all you losers to believe in one GOD! bible verses and myths dont mix!

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12/27/2002

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First of all I just want to say,stop the myths and legend tellings about manu'a.Whatever happens in manu'a,stays in manu'a.'Til this day,nobody knows because we have been so secured with our ways of life.I'll tell you this,the last person who went around telling stories about motu sa (especially the ones who past away)he didn't make to see 20.Just because it's the 21st century,doesn't mean mysterious or miraculous things on our island have been extinct.Believe me,I know. Soifua, Tama O Le Muaau'tau

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12/28/2002

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1/2/2003

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O oe lea na sau le loto maualalo (12/09/02 2:08:37AM), ia toe fofola atu lou malamalama e fa'i loa atu i le vale lea na fa'asalaulau ona matauupu. Onosa'i tatou, aua e alu a le malie ma ou...... Fa'afetai ia oe, masalo o oe ose toto a Lefiti ma Sotoa, mea na ete loto maualalo ai. Aua a o'o ona e tautala i tala o le nu'u, ia ua puni ai ma mapu ai gutu.
Fa'afetai ma Soifua Ia manuia tausaga fou ma la'asaga uma

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1/9/2003

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Comment 11/30/02: I'd just like to say that although we thank you for your input, we had assumed the issue of the Manu'a titles was over and done with. You have gone, in your own ignorance, and rehashed issues that have already been dealt with. We have all read a comment made by a family member of the Lefiti family berating the people who've obviously made inaccurate statements about their family. Yet because you probably didn't have the patience to read further down the posts, you have gone a restarted a debate that I'm sure other readers wished would end. If you had read carefully the statements that were made against the Moliga, Leasau, and Nua faction, you would realize that they had started it; there was no mention of Sotoas; and the Lefiti family had tried to lay to rest any frazzled sensibilities. Next time, get your facts straight before jumping to conclusions, so that next time you won't make an A$$ of yourself. With all do respect, I really did not appreciate this issue being brought forth yet AGAIN!!!

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1/9/2003

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Comment 1/2/03: I just wanted to comment on a comment you made: "le vale lea na fa'asalalau ona mataupu?" I don't know if you're a Moliga or Lefiti supporter, but if you did read you would have known that it was a Moliga, Leasau, and Nua "VALE" who started this issue. Just a point of clarification!!!!

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1/10/2003

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What's up with all these hateful remarks? All this escalated from one person who was not satisfied with someone elses post. Why continue with the name calling, if you don't live in Manu'a or is not from Manu'a, I say keep your comments to yourself, only a true blooded Manu'a would know the "true" story and its' rich history, not those whole live elsewhere. Yes apologies have been made and let's keep it at that. Let's keep this subject to Myths and Legends only!! Tu'u tala a Manu'a mo e tau moni ile Manu'atele. Everyone have a good day now and God Bless.

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1/13/2003

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Their was once a young beautiful princess called Mamaengaroa. She had a baby, but no husband. One night, her baby was weeping because it was thirsty, she went to check the gourd it was empty. So she picked her baby up, and the gourd and started a long journey to the river. It was pitch black outside, but the moon was shining brightly. She started down the track, as she was walking the moon went behind a tree, and in the darkness, Mamaengaroa and her baby tripped over. She stood up and dusted off all the dirt from her siapo dress. She mocked the moon yelling it was useless because it didnt provide enough light for her to see in the dark. The moon goddess, Masina took this to an offence and carried Mamaengaroa up to the moon with her baby with her magical powers. Now whenever you look up in the sky, and see a full moon you might see Mamaengaroa and her baby.

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1/14/2003

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Very interesting site and some of the comments are very helpful in actully knowing more about the history of our people. Anyone know something about the aitu from Lepea??

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1/22/2003

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Hey, it's good to know that you are a descendant of a high ranking ancestor, but you people need to know that neither you nor your future kin will ever have to live in the conditions or go through what the ancestors had to do to achieve their high status. A great disrespect has been brought towards all titles mentioned, no matter what the rank. A real "SAMOAN" will know that such matters will not be discussed on the internet for the whole world to see. With that, I can only conclude that the bashings are not condoned by both Aigas as a whole, but surely by someone who is angry and just want to show that they have access to the internet.
On a different note, I'd like to leave you fine people with this thought. Westerners have been writing books about our islands and culture. Our history has been recorded, first taken orally from elders of villages and written by westerners who really had nothing to gain except knowledge. If it is so hard to accept the writings they have made, which were taken straight from the mouths of our own peoople, why is it so easy to praise the Bible? What say you? T.P.J.

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1/22/2003

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Hey, it's good to know that you are a descendant of a high ranking ancestor, but you people need to know that neither you nor your future kin will ever have to live in the conditions or go through what the ancestors had to do to achieve their high status. A great disrespect has been brought towards all titles mentioned, no matter what the rank. A real "SAMOAN" will know that such matters will not be discussed on the internet for the whole world to see. With that, I can only conclude that the bashings are not condoned by both Aigas as a whole, but surely by someone who is angry and just want to show that they have access to the internet.
On a different note, I'd like to leave you fine people with this thought. Westerners have been writing books about our islands and culture. Our history has been recorded, first taken orally from elders of villages and written by westerners who really had nothing to gain except knowledge. If it is so hard to accept the writings they have made, which were taken straight from the mouths of our own peoople, why is it so easy to praise the Bible? What say you? T.P.J.

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1/22/2003

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I'm sorry about the last passage to my message. If someone could tell me where I could re-direct my question for a proper response. Any other site where I can debate on other Samoan issues would be greatly appreciated.

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1/22/2003

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First of all, I don't know why people are forever debating the issue of the Lefiti title. I thought this website was for our land's beautiful and sacred myths and legends that should be written down in the course of history for future generations to cherish and remember. The legends that I remember as a child from my grandparents and ancestors are...
the story of Sina ma le Tuna which is the origin of the fruit-le niu. the story of Moso, the giant whose footprint is a landmark in the island of Upolu. the story of Pili, who is supposedly the mythical father of all the natives. the story of the giant Vaea and his bride- Apaula whose tears formed the waterfall "Loimata-o-Apaula." the story of Nafanua, the Samoan goddess of war, who I am related to by blood. How she saved the natives from slavery. the story of the shark and the turtle- who constantly resurface when the natives sing their song in Vaitogi. the story of Fatu-ma-Futi, the couple who found themselves turned to mountains after being pursued by demons. the story of the demons (although I don't believe in them) Telesa, Saumaiafi, Tuliatua, Saipua'aelo. the story of the nifoloa-deadly Samoan vampire. the story of Saveasi'uleo- the eel-man who is the father of Nafanua. the story of Salamasina-goddess of the moonlight.
I was raised with these tales that are significant to every Samoan which should carve a mark in their lives as to who they are and where they came from.
Once a person finds out and appreciates their heritage, they will have no trouble identifying themselves.

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1/22/2003

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First of all, I don't know why people are forever debating the issue of the Lefiti title. I thought this website was for our land's beautiful and sacred myths and legends that should be written down in the course of history for future generations to cherish and remember. The legends that I remember as a child from my grandparents and ancestors are...
the story of Sina ma le Tuna which is the origin of the fruit-le niu. the story of Moso, the giant whose footprint is a landmark in the island of Upolu. the story of Pili, who is supposedly the mythical father of all the natives. the story of the giant Vaea and his bride- Apaula whose tears formed the waterfall "Loimata-o-Apaula." the story of Nafanua, the Samoan goddess of war, who I am related to by blood. How she saved the natives from slavery. the story of the shark and the turtle- who constantly resurface when the natives sing their song in Vaitogi. the story of Fatu-ma-Futi, the couple who found themselves turned to mountains after being pursued by demons. the story of the demons (although I don't believe in them) Telesa, Saumaiafi, Tuliatua, Saipua'aelo. the story of the nifoloa-deadly Samoan vampire. the story of Saveasi'uleo- the eel-man who is the father of Nafanua. the story of Salamasina-goddess of the moonlight.
I was raised with these tales that are significant to every Samoan which should carve a mark in their lives as to who they are and where they came from.
Once a person finds out and appreciates their heritage, they will have no trouble identifying themselves.

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1/22/2003

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Talofa lava i le paia ma le mamalu.
Ia o au o lea ou te fia iloaina le tagata muamua lava i America Samoa ma o fea foi na maua mai ai le igoa Tutuila.
Faamolemole tusi mai i le email joan_tauti@hawaiicity.com
Faafetai

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1/22/2003

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Talofa lava i le paia ma le mamalu.
Ia o au o lea ou te fia iloaina le tagata muamua lava i America Samoa ma o fea foi na maua mai ai le igoa Tutuila.
Faamolemole tusi mai i le email joan_tauti@hawaiicity.com
Faafetai

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1/23/2003

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Cannibalism was not a part of the Samoan way of life. It was done with influence by Fiji, by a few people who believed that power and magic would be attained if they ate human flesh. It was an abhoration that was detested by the Samoan community at large. Don't kid yourself and don't let others say that it only happens in the south pacific. Every corner of the earth that is populated has their fair share of tales of humans eating other humans.

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1/30/2003

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One day a boy named ke'o.And he loved kaipu. He was gay and had to kaelle.

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1/30/2003

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One day a boy named ke'o.And he loved kaipu. He was gay and had to kaelle.

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1/31/2003

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LMFAOOOOOOO@this site....

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1/31/2003

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Good evening everyone in the name of Jesus Christ, i hope you all are having a beautiful and most blessed week so far...Interesting reading i must say as i accidently stumbled in here and it just gets funnier and funnier. Basically this whole forum is about my family and familes im really close with, So on behalf of the Lefiti's, the Sotoa's, the Molimau's, the Leasau's, and the Nua's, whom which i coincidently go to church with all 5 families, please stop bringing up this crap about who's who and who's not. Its rubbish and its been discussed in the past from what i have read. Learn from the past and make it better for the future! Hope you all got better stories then the three evil sister, lol...God BLess you all and whatever you decide to write in here!

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2/1/2003

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2/1/2003

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Cannibalism is alive and well, but in a different format..So much thanks to the uso that invented the deuce bag..I'm a very healthy Samoan stud (maybe because of the p---- juice), because of this invention, I too am proud to say that I practice cannibalism every chance I get with my mates..Ae fiafia lava a'u keines ma falekuas o le isi auvaega e ai e a'u...I'm cool with it as long as not right after the end of the month....mmmmmmmmm....So to all the ma'amusas that wants to be eaten, remember this, deuce, shave, and bathe...And I will ai oe until you lelei fa'alausoso'o..

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2/1/2003

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This is the story of Tutuila. The island has never been independent. They were ruled by the Tongans and then Europeans came over and mea'd all their girls. In the 40's, girls were getting pregnant by white men and leaving the babies at the hospital for anyone to take because their families were ashamed. Take a look around and see. You'll notice that there are alot of families who have papalagi last names. Chances are they were victims of rape. Nobody really wanted anything to do with Tutuila, but the U.S. knew that the harbor was useful as a restover, that's it. Don't believe the hype. The U.S. looks and Tutuila as a begging sack of kaka. There is absolutely nothing that Tutuila has to offer the U.S. That is why Tutuila was offered to go on its own and become independent. But NO, do you think they jumped at the chance to gain independence? FACK NO! Why? They know damn well that they aint got shiat without the U.S. Tutuila is just an island that sucks on the U.S. cock and the people are just the same, but they suck eachother and at the same time try to shove shiat up eachothers ass.

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2/1/2003

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Gosh, what a hater..Sorry that you feel that way about Tutuila...But I forgive you, because is not your fault..I'm also sorry that your father silu your muli and sexually abused you for quite sometimes.... that stuff that you lick off his titaponi after he's done with you is not peanut butter..It's part of your brain that was misplaced up your kole, that's why it smell like shit, so as your mouth everytime you open it...But don't be hating on your daddy, he's just trying to re-locate your brain by way of silu your muli and have you to orally swallow it and hoping some of it will find the right home...Or better yet, just ask your momma why she left you at the hospital..maybe because you were so ugly, when your mother went into labor the doctors went on strike....

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2/1/2003

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Its such sadness that people are using this webpage as a porn and hate page. To the one who created it, please remove it instantly as it is ruining my pride in my heritage and guess what?... It is starting to make me feel like I don't wanna have anything to do with Samoa by reading all this low and uncivilized mumbling. Show some class people. The world is reading this. Its people like you who give Samoa a bad name and face. Grow up and go work on the ma'umaga or go fishing to feed your family rather than wasting the White Man's internet and electricity. Whoever taught you how to use this new form of technology should never have done so. What really bothers me the most is that people tend to say that Palagis are full of this and that when its usually the Samoans who portray such immaturity and rudeness. And whoever said that all Samoans are respectful and family-valued must have been on drugs or something cause after reading those uluka'e's comments, Ha ha ha...what a laugh!!!
Thank you and God Bless You.

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2/2/2003

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Does any body know the story of Leutogitupa'itea and the legend of Tonumaipe'a or how Nafanua got the many titles using the Tonumaipe'a clan? I've heard these stories all my life.I was just wondering if any one else has?

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2/3/2003

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To tell you the truth, this page is sooo low and uncivilized. Grow up and stop the hatred!!! We are living in the third millennium. All this hatred and obscenity are from waaaaaaay back in the 20's or should I say the beginning of the dinosaur era?

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2/3/2003

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To tell you the truth, this page is sooo low and uncivilized. Grow up and stop the hatred!!! We are living in the third millennium. All this hatred and obscenity are from waaaaaaay back in the 20's or should I say the beginning of the dinosaur era?

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2/3/2003

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It's funny how Samoans are either too Holy for their own good...or too dam vulger for anyone elses. We are no more good or bad then the next ethnic group. I think the sooner some of us realize this, the better off we all will be. Also, the in house bickering about which Samoan group is better? I'm sorry but last time I checked we was all SAMOAN, the white man just liked dividing and conquering different people resulting in two Samoas, but if we all just accept the fact that we are one peoples then maybe the name calling and finger pointing will subside. Lastly I'd just like to point out that yes fortunately Western Samoa is an independent country, but it must not really be paradise there because we get a grip load of them constantly trying to come into Tutuila to reap the benefits of the many US dollars we get. Funny isn't it???????

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2/3/2003

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you are all sorry a$$ess....and you call yourself proud people...I'm not Samoan and after reading all this rubbish I'm actully proud not to be one....GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!

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2/3/2003

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Whatever you are...I'm glad I'm not you, because although we may not be the perfect people we claim to be we know better then to cap on other cultures. We sure as hell ain't stupid enough to go into their sites and disrespect them too. You are quite lucky you haven't revealed yourself, because some of the stigma we are constantly being accused of having just may come out.

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2/3/2003

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Hey, Samoans will fight eachother forever, it's been proven in our history. But, they will stand together for eachother when need be. Like everyone else in this world, we are not perfect! We are a proud people because we still have our culture, our land, freedom of religin and speech. East or West, we are the same. Try talking trash in a public forum with Samoans around LOL, you wouldn't be able to finish your statement! Name a race without problems, you should be nominated for a nobel peace prize.

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2/3/2003

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To 01/31/03 thankyou,our traditions and private history are known by us. While each of the families may have differances they don't belong on the www, another member of one of the families.

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2/3/2003

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2/3/2003

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To 02/03/2003 5.47pm....'Samoan Myths and Legends' not "Samoan family feuds" is the title of this webpage...or do you need someone to spell it out for you???

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2/3/2003

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and the above message goes out to the rest of you dicks who dont know how to read the title.....

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2/3/2003

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and the above message goes out to the rest of you dicks who dont know how to read the title.....

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2/3/2003

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and the above message goes out to the rest of you dicks who dont know how to read the title.....

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2/4/2003

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Dude...If you ain't got nothing constructive or better to say...then do as the saying goes...shut you trap cause you sure as hell contradict yourself. Besides...I don't see your ass posting any legends, and you are contributing to the filth that's been already said in this forum.

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2/6/2003

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Please take this webpage off the internet or put a porn/hate detector on it so that no more obscenities and nonsense can be posted. I am trying to learn about my grandfather's culture here and its a tragedy to see it being demoted by its own mindless people.
I only know the legend of Sina and the eel.
Thank you. Fa!

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2/6/2003

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My dear friend...please don't make gross assumptions. Just because a few ignorant Samoans don't know how to curb their tongue, doesn't mean all Samoans are that way. There are good and bad people in every society...don't allow a couple of vulgar comments define YOUR impression of Samoans. This isn't the only way to learn about your grandfather's culture.

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2/6/2003

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My dear friend...please don't make gross assumptions. Just because a few ignorant Samoans don't know how to curb their tongue, doesn't mean all Samoans are that way. There are good and bad people in every society...don't allow a couple of vulgar comments define YOUR impression of Samoans. This isn't the only way to learn about your grandfather's culture.

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2/6/2003

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My dear friend...please don't make gross assumptions. Just because a few ignorant Samoans don't know how to curb their tongue, doesn't mean all Samoans are that way. There are good and bad people in every society...don't allow a couple of vulgar comments define YOUR impression of Samoans. This isn't the only way to learn about your grandfather's culture. We may be a lot things, but MINDLESS isn't one of them.

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2/7/2003

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Thank you sooo much for that. Yes, its only ignorant Samoans who are visiting this page. The question is why? Where have all the intelligent ones gone too?

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2/7/2003

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Doing more important things...and not ai afu on the internet while others are hard at work.

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2/9/2003

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just passing by here, curios alot of hate. i thougth that we are samoan people from the sun, we are happy people... please come together as one. ai a o to e mai palalagi ma meauli ma mexico ma isi toatele o tagata i faamatagalaga le sa'o ma upu masoa o loo fai i totonu ole internet. olo mea na ua fai ai faalupega ma tulafale o nu'u taitasi. o latou ia e faafaileleina upu o samoa, ole mea lena e fai so'o ai le alaga upu o samoa ole i'a e iviivia. aua e felefele ona mataupu. all i'm trying to say is, let it be. leave it alone!! if you don't say you don't. aua le ne'i goto le la o e ita i lu uso. peace se mea ina lelei o uso ae fealofani.

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2/10/2003

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Ua sa'o lelei le tagata lea. Fa'afetai lava. O lea fo'i o toe fo'i matou nei Samoa lava aua le inoino i nei mau fa'amatalaga ua fai i luga o le internet a le Papalagi. Ia, fa'afetai lava i le Atua o lo'o sona vi'ia pea ma fa'afetai tatou.
I really feel sorry for our own people. What haters some of them are!!!
Peace and humptiness forever. In the name of Jesus Christ we all should learn to stand together and forever stop this foul language.
Peace,
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and humptiness forever...
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2/10/2003

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Ua sa'o lelei le tagata lea. Fa'afetai lava. O lea fo'i o toe fo'i matou nei Samoa lava aua le inoino i nei mau fa'amatalaga ua fai i luga o le internet a le Papalagi. Ia, fa'afetai lava i le Atua o lo'o sona vi'ia pea ma fa'afetai tatou.
I really feel sorry for our own people. What haters some of them are!!!
Peace and humptiness forever. In the name of Jesus Christ we all should learn to stand together and forever stop this foul language.
Peace,
love,
and humptiness forever...
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2/11/2003

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oh gosh...I came on here to read legends not arguments....se ua lava lou boooshaaatt!!...tell some more stories! who cares about the fijians or the not-so-fijians...I mean seriously!! put that nonsense to rest already! We want legends! some of us have assignments to report on??! thanks.

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2/12/2003

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To my Samoan brothers and sisters, our myths and legends are very sacred and beautiful if you know them. Tagaloalagi is the supreme god in our mythology. Another myth is the story of the beautiful maiden Sina with her brothers Tui who fell in love with the gogosina and eventually was captured by the evil giant, Tuioletafue but finally was rescued by her brother Tui.
The siva is a war-like dance that is used to tell a story. Let me tell you, our people are sooo talented and recently I hope that our education system would emphasize our culture in their Samoan classes. Really. Because most of our own young people do not even know these myths and legends that would benefit them greatly. Lets not forget that God is still the highest and Jesus Christ shall come again. And He will come soon.

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2/12/2003

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To my Samoan brothers and sisters, our myths and legends are very sacred and beautiful if you know them. Tagaloalagi is the supreme god in our mythology. Another myth is the story of the beautiful maiden Sina with her brothers Tui who fell in love with the gogosina and eventually was captured by the evil giant, Tuioletafue but finally was rescued by her brother Tui.
The siva is a war-like dance that is used to tell a story. Let me tell you, our people are sooo talented and recently I hope that our education system would emphasize our culture in their Samoan classes. Really. Because most of our own young people do not even know these myths and legends that would benefit them greatly. Lets not forget that God is still the highest and Jesus Christ shall come again. And He will come soon.

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2/17/2003

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thehell whith all of you how are wanabe so holy we samoan poeple are one.but this manua shit gotto stop .we are gues having fun .aua laia toe lotea mea siga malo.pei ole upu a samoa ole ia e ivivia a leloa na ai ete laua

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2/17/2003

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Modern Samoan legends: John Kneubuhl, Aggie Grey, Albert Wendt, Tony Meredith, Junior Seau, Congressman Eni Faleomavaega, Sia Figel and lastly Duwayne Johnson. Who's next? Could it be you? STAY IN SCHOOL...KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!

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2/17/2003

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And add into that modern legends list is Mary Pritchard who's tapa designs are truly an essence of Samoan beauty!

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2/17/2003

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And add into that modern legends list is Mary Pritchard who's tapa designs are truly an essence of Samoan beauty!

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2/17/2003

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And add into that modern legends list is Mary Pritchard who's tapa designs are truly an essence of Samoan beauty!

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2/18/2003

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2/18/2003

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Can someone tell me any samoan love stories/legends- or better still, give me some resources for an authentic samoan love story. I'm writing from New Zealand and am currently looking at producing a film based on a true Samoan love legend/myth. Any ideas would be appreciated - this site looks pretty interesting.

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2/20/2003

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And add into that modern legends list is Cardinal Pio Taofinu'u. He's the first Samoan cardinal of the Universal Roman Catholic Church.

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2/20/2003

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I wanna know if in Samoan myths do we have fairies, pixies or elves or magical little beings??? Other cultures have them but do we? Fia iloa fa'amolemole. Fa'afetai.

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2/20/2003

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what abou th etale of Kelesa?

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2/21/2003

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My input here today isn't concerning a particular myth and legend; however, my curiosity lies in the common practices and ceremonial rituals derived from the multitude of Samoan myths and legends. Sadly and more particularly, my interest is in those practices that are lost and rarely exposed by our learned elders or branded as taboo by the christian invasion and the Samoan masses. I would like to read some of your insights relating to disappearing social practices and behaviors in conjunction with the seemingly adaptive, "more efficient" and "new" behaviors of Samoans.
Furthermore, as a culture-based society are we capable of creating and passing along myths and legends ourselves? How different/similar would they be from those of our aged parents? If so, how much of a western flavor/influence will saturate such a myth and legend? If not, what about our times and society limits such an oral based potential?
I clearly comprehend the purpose and the emboldened name of this sight. So, rather than banter about my being in the wrong site,let's discuss my line of questioning. Help me to hear more of my people's rich, changing, and disappearing past so that we can begin to work towards and chart a more independent future for ourselves.
Now there's an issue to ring in on: (American)Samoa independence.
Ia manuia toe feau ma galuega. Soifua

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2/23/2003

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MY DAD WAS A GOST BACK IN THE DAYS UNTIL HE MET MY MUM

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2/25/2003

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The question of whether Samoan myth and legend share common elements of fairies, pixies, elves, and the like is quite curious and is an excellent question. Unfortunately, I don't possess the insight to your wonderful question. But I can point to Dr. Caroline Sinavaiana, PhD at the University of Hawaii-Manoa for a more definitive answer. Her work in the preservation of Samoan Arts/Language and Culture goes unannounced amongst our own people. However, Sinavaiana's work is clearly integral for our personal growth and societal edification as she has collected and recorded many of our community's stories and its varieagations. I encourage you to look Dr. Sinavaiana up. I can also pass along her UH email if you're serious about learning from her.

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2/26/2003

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For the individual in New Zealand looking for Samoan love stories/legends, I'd like to suggest you look at Pago Pago for the story of an eager, young missionary who sailed in the company of other Christian missionaries to Tutuila. It was said that this handsome, cleft chinned missionary of Irish descent and his sullen red headed wife toiled tirelessly, spreading Christianity to the villagers of Pago Pago and other outlying villages along the wetlands of the bay area. One day, this "godly mechanic" as the missionaries were also called came across the daughter of a prominent chief of the Pago Pago village.
At times, during his daily rounds the missionary would visit the chief and his family alone, leaving his Victorian bred wife to tend to other busy-body matters, such teaching sewing to the adolescent girls of the village. On one of his visits, the missionary was invited to return at night for an expected feasting with a traveling wedding party from a neighboring village.
It was during the song and feasting, after the ceremonial bleeding and dowry exchange that couples began to disappear into the shadows of the looming mountains that lead to Fagasa.
Enticed by the youthful tauntings of the chief's daughter, the missionary aborted his vows to both God and wife and allowed himself to be led by the into a remote area of the girl's family lands. The missionary followed the swagger of his fantasy all the while tormenting himself in argument until she slowed down and sat on a mossy boulder where he could hear his heart beat, beating louder than the gurgling of the passing stream.
The missionary was unable to look at himself nor meet the suspicious gaze of his faithful companion as she set out his morning victuals in their familiar quarters assigned to them by the Protestant Mission of New England.
Shortly after this, the missionary's wife died of some mysterious illness. Many say she died of a broken heart from a lost love. Other's say her death came at the hands of his contumacious lover.
The missionary was unable to bring himself to sustain the pejorative relationship, himself falling ill with guilt and distraught. I was told that he may have done one of two things: committed suicide by swimming into the deep of the Pacific Ocean and/or the missionary left the Samoan islands to never return, but fathered a beautiful little girl.
I don't know how true this story is or how reliable the account given to me is, but it adds to the romance of early contact and exploration of endemic lands and peoples.
Also, if you've got a handy writer with you, you could conjure a story based on interviews with those Samoans born of Euro-American fathers during the occupation of the World Wars and what their stories are. Imagine what you could discover? It won't be easy as many of the old ladies and their respective families will have difficulty divulging, a probably painful period of their lives, as many ridiculous, in-house racist name calling came about, like "ulu egaega."
Does anyone know of a website that seriously discusses current Samoan issues, like governance, environment/land use, territorial fiscal constraints, the changing samoan society, the failure of the Department of Education, health care, and the like?

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2/26/2003

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For the individual in New Zealand looking for Samoan love stories/legends, I'd like to suggest you look at Pago Pago for the story of an eager, young missionary who sailed in the company of other Christian missionaries to Tutuila. It was said that this handsome, cleft chinned missionary of Irish descent and his sullen red headed wife toiled tirelessly, spreading Christianity to the villagers of Pago Pago and other outlying villages along the wetlands of the bay area. One day, this "godly mechanic" as the missionaries were also called came across the daughter of a prominent chief of the Pago Pago village. He loved her effortless beauty. He hadn't felt so alive, so much new.
At times, during his daily rounds the missionary would consciously visit the chief and his family alone, leaving his Victorian bred wife to tend to other busy-body matters, such teaching sewing to the adolescent girls of the village. On one of his visits, the missionary was invited to return at night for an expected feasting with a traveling wedding party from a neighboring village. He left wife sitting by candlelight in a chair fashioned with cushions sewn by her very hands.
It was during the song and feasting, after the ceremonial bleeding and dowry exchange that couples began to disappear into the shadows of the looming mountains that lead to Fagasa.
Enticed by the youthful tauntings of the chief's daughter, the missionary aborted his vows to both God and wife and allowed himself to be led into a remote area of the girl's family lands. The missionary followed the swagger of his fantasy all the while tormenting himself in argument until she slowed down and sat on a mossy boulder where he could hear his heart beat, beating louder than the gurgling of the passing stream.
At day break, the waking sun shone brightly, over everything, including his regretful heart that still danced in rememberance of her scent and touch. The missionary was unable to look at himself nor meet the suspicious gaze of his faithful companion as she set out his morning victuals in their familiar quarters assigned to them by the Protestant Mission of New England.
Shortly after his infidelity, the missionary's wife died of some mysterious illness. Many say she died of a broken heart from a lost love. Other's say her death came at the hands of his contumacious lover.
The missionary was unable to bring himself to sustain the pejorative relationship, himself falling ill with guilt and distraught. I was told that he may have done one of two things: committed suicide by swimming into the deep of the Pacific Ocean and/or the missionary left the Samoan islands to never return, but fathered a beautiful little girl.
I don't know how true or how reliable the account given to me is, but it adds to the romance of early contact and exploration of endemic lands and peoples.
Also, if you've got a handy writer with you, you could conjure up a story based on interviews with those Samoans born of Euro-American fathers during the occupation of the World Wars and what their stories are. Imagine what you could discover? However, it won't be easy as many of the old women and their individual families will have difficulty divulging, a probably painful period of their lives, as many ridiculous, in-house racist name calling came about, like "ulu egaega."
Fanua

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2/26/2003

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Add into the modern Samoan legends list is the Manu Samoa team.

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3/1/2003

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Is it true Auva'a used to be the King of Samoa? Just asking. No rude comments or foul mouthed outbursts please. This is an innocent question with no strings attached. It is for the educated and the wise only. Thank you.

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3/1/2003

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I was doing some research for a book in the American Samoa Archives Office about ten years ago when I accidentally happened across some early US Naval records; more importantly for your question, I came across a personal journal kept by a commanding officers referencing an incident where a Pago Pago chiefs was arrested for illegal possession of US Navy property. This chief had a very inventive daughter who rallied support and tension by claiming that the US Navy had illegally detained the king of Samoa.
After days of protest by this vigilante daughter and a small group of protesters, the commanding admiral with permission from the Pacific Fleet Command Headquarters gave him the go-ahead to release the arrested chief. The admiral's journal is the only place that references this Pago chief as the "'king' of Tutuila, East Samoa."
I taught at Manu'a High School where I had these copied documents, unfortunately, those burned in the school fire. So, I can't relate the name of the chief and dates, but I hope I gave you a starting point.

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3/2/2003

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added David Tua one of the modern samoan legends or should I say a SAMOAN WARRIOR!!! Peace I'm outta hea!!

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3/2/2003

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This might already be here, but if so, I couldnt find it. Can somebody please tell the story of the turtle and the shark?

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3/3/2003

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the turtle turns to the shark and lets get out of hea and tell them people to leave us alone!! good bye!!

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3/3/2003

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the turtle turns to the shark and said lets get out of here and tell them people to leave us alone.. good-bye !!

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3/4/2003

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Thank you for answering my question. But let me point out that not everything the Palagi writes down about our islands are accurate. I prefer learning from our own people instead of reading the books written by Palagis. For example, Margaret Mead? Thank you for responding though. I appreciate it. Recently, I visited Joseph Matua's website: www.matua.as/ and in it I find that I am getting closer to the answer. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

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3/4/2003

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To 3/1/2003- 6:54:09 PM Thank you foranswering my question. But let me point out that not everything the Palagi writes down about our islands are accurate. I prefer learning from our own people instead of reading the books written by Palagis. For example, Margaret Mead? Thank you for responding though. I appreciate it. Recently, I visited Joseph Matua's website: www.matua.as/ and in it I find that I am getting closer to the answer. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

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3/4/2003

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I am from Manua and Im just passing threw and the topic you guys are talking about is very funny.Why because all you people are just fighting over something that you people are not even shore about. None you guys have a clue that what really happened and plus those days are over and now the U.S.A has token over samoa in 1900. So there for why are you guys trying to find out the real story of tuimanua, I personaly am from the tuimanua klan I am from Tauvevetuimanua klan. It's good to know your past about are History in samoa but now it time to move on. So faamolemole aua te ita ia te au

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3/4/2003

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Does anybody knows about how samoa got it's name I want to know if anybody Knows. Then I'll see from there.

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3/4/2003

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3/4/2003

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Duh, it was created by the Olosega Elementary School cheeleaders back in 1974. Back then, Samoa was known as Upolu, Savaii, Kukuila and Magu'a. Kigaiga of Pago Pago patent the name in early 1976..One day, Kigaiga used it's pokemon power to go to America to eat some KFC..It gave him heartburn, so he came back to Fagakogo and asked the fogo to bar KFC in any shape or form from doing business with his people..So all the four island groups agreed and barred KFC from the islands..So Colnel Sanders found out what Kigaiga did so he sent Cohan and Homer Simpson after him..Samoa hasn't seen or heard from Kigaiga since...shhhhh, can you keep a secret, 'he is currently the San Diego Padres chicken...

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3/5/2003

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Don't believe this hoax about the origin of Samoa's name. What a loser. Thinking h/she has talents in writing but go use it in a comedy website not in our Samoan myths and legends zone. Use your head not your funny bone or whatever it is your on. I know i'm not supposed to bug in on others business but the Samoan culture is no laughing stock okay?

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3/5/2003

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Neither are cultures able to be laughing stocks. If you knew your grammar you would know that this saying pertains to individuals and not a whole set of beliefs, practices, or a way of life. But this does not mean that I do not side with you. Just thought that I should help out a fellow Samoan and correct your Kramer...lol!!! No, our culture is not something to be humorized, but respected. So many peoples around the world do not know who they are and try to copy or adopt a culture that is not their own. Be glad that we are born into an established culture that is still thriving.

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3/6/2003

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There is no question in my mind that first hand accounts by the indigenous people are the truest and most biased accounts. The bias perspective falling in favor of the individual or family telling his/their side of the story. The isolated incident of the Pago chief's daughter calling her father the "king" of Samoa as her strategy to freeing her thieving father is by no means cemented as evidence of royal genealogy, but an interesting research find. In this situation, I believe I didn't make inference or argue the case of having a foreigner's account in matters of Samoan lineage as imperical evidence.
Furthermore, I too have read several of Mead's works and find numerous flaws with her anthropological position. I also disagree with many of her generalizations of Samoans based on her time in Ta'u. But nonetheless, Mead's work continues to be introduced as the forerunner to Samoan studies. While Samoans insist on keeping our family and collective histories silenced and unwritten, we will continue to read publications of our myths and legends, our stories, histories, family insights, and cultural identity by papalagi. And yes, the papalagi's accounts will be saturated with biasness and mistakes presented as facts. But if we don't speak up, they will.
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3/6/2003

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Thank you very much Fanua. With your vast insights into the Samoan culture, I encourage you wholeheartedly to publish a book on what you have studied and learned so far. That knowledge you possess must not be shaded for long. Just a suggestion.

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3/6/2003

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Does anyone know the who started the word "Matafao?"

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3/7/2003

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Add to the modern Samoan Legends: All the brothers and sisters who gave their lives to served our country, as well as those who served and are currently serving so we can have the freedom to live in peace and in harmony..Known for been overworked and underpaid didn't hindered your decisions to sacrificed your own freedoms and lives so that today and future generations have a peaceful place to live the dream and to be all they can be...And if you are currently involved in the conflict between our Country and Irag, may the power and the glory of God be with you always and to help your families cope with such hardship..Remember: YOU ARE IN OUR PRAYERS DAILY and YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN...Hope to see you all back safe and in one piece....Much and much alofa and God bless...Sapper Steel!!

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3/8/2003

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Add to the Modern Samoan legends: The Te Vaka Band. This world-renowned musical group's bandleader came from Samoa and most of its members are Part Samoan. Love their music. Wish every Samoan band would sound like them. They emphasize true Polynesian sound and beauty!!! VIVA TE VAKA!

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3/12/2003

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Te vaka!! who in the blue hell is te vaka suaka samoan legends not some idiots who sings nothing but jibberish rubbish. tevaka shuaka rubbish just rubbish i dont kea what u gonna say 'bout me but i outta hea look it hea look it hea

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3/12/2003

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wat da hell is up wit u kuys man do u not noe dat dis is a hamo mysh and leshen webshit. dont cum and tell me who u loving coz me ish not shtupid okae alu ai polo lou tama fa man peace out to all muh niggash

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3/13/2003

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To: 3/12/03's comments. Of course I won't say anything about you, I wouldn't wanna be dragged down to your status. Do you know legends has 2 meanings? Ko'aga i le a'oga fa'amolemole. Soia le sikipi.

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3/18/2003

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hi juliana

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3/18/2003

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hi tisha

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3/18/2003

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hello me ish just gom on de webshit and me ish belief dat u pepols out dere who ish fink u kool go and tell yo mama who luff coz me ish not kea about your shtupid love llife i chust want ot say to u ufas out dere alu ai polo lou tama okae fa Q by now

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3/18/2003

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i chust called 2 sae i luff u ok

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3/18/2003

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i like to make a shout out to my mummy and my daddy and my uncle john and auntie pusa and cusin fanny and odda cuzin paulo and to my uncle harry meet down at da tab at 5 and bring me sum moneys coz i poor bye bye

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3/22/2003

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Added to the Modern Samoan legends list are all those Samoan brothers and sisters who have disappeared without a trace and without a body found...May God lead them to the gates of Eden and rejoice in the kingdom of Heaven. Amene!

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3/24/2003

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3/27/2003

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i just wanna say who is letitia im just kurious

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3/28/2003

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hey! where all the myths? this page is not helpful. i need to know the story of moso the giant. n-eway.

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3/28/2003

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Me too!!!

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3/28/2003

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Oops! To: 1/31/2003 - 4:13:02AM ME TOO!!!!!
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4/11/2003

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This is the story of the first pig in Samoa.There were 2 men living with their parents in Fiji .The king of fiji asked someone in the town to be eaten every week.The mother and father knowing that they were going 2 be eaten they had prepared a plan ( as all Samoan parents do).Their plan was that the upcoming week when they were going to be eaten by the king of Fiji the mother said to kill them and feed them 2 the maggots that would come .The 2 boys did as told and when all the maggots ate the parents it formed a fat creature which they called a puaa .They fed this 2 king and he said that the puaa was so delicious that he would only eat puaa from now on. The 2 boys were rewarded and were allowed 2 go back 2 Samoa but they were not allowed to take any alive puaa with them. when they did leave they took with them a dead puaa wrapped with leavesand inside was a boy and a girl puaa and this was the 1st puaa in Samoa

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4/14/2003

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hehehe i was surfin da net lookin for some polynesian legends came across alot of them but i think this site is the best

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4/14/2003

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there are two things that i would like to respond to. Firstly, to the person who asked about matafao; this word comes from the ancient language of babylon which when pronounced sounds something like MAHAGTHA'FAOW. proof of this can be found in the works of margret meads. i also read about how tuimanua got his name, tuimanuas name is really fijian it is pronounced jui rambuka.

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4/14/2003

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there are two things that i would like to respond to. Firstly, to the person who asked about matafao; this word comes from the ancient language of babylon which when pronounced sounds something like MAHAGTHA'FAOW. proof of this can be found in the works of margret meads. i also read about how tuimanua got his name, tuimanuas name is really fijian it is pronounced jui rambuka.

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4/14/2003

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maro leilei from the Kingdom of Tonga.....My legend is how Tonga use to rule Samoa.
Tui Tonga was out on one of his many wars ship.....The Patura was the name of this ship there was 500 men that were with him when they landed in Manono after attacking the village of Manono and killing all the plantation workers from Manua He took the crown of shells that was in the HIgh Chiefs House in the middle of the Malae the Chiefs name was Ai mealeilei. Tui Tonga had him beheaded and cut his body up for the vilages to eat because he was so fat that day they had a big umu and that's where the proverb 'kao se umu' comes from the village of Manono. After looking under the sleeping mats Tui Tonga found fine mats that were stolen from Tui Manua's daughter wedding to Tui Tonga's Son Prince Lakalaka from Vavau he was angry with the whole situation and gathered the people in the boats and took back to Tonga where they lived and served him....there are still decendents working in the Royal Palace to this day as cleaners and foot washers but most of the families that he took now live in Auckland under these names Ka'a Siva, Te u tupe, Pepa Hausi and Lotto, This legend is well known in the Pacific and Tonga I am one of the decendents of Ka'aSiva Taumoepeau Niuafo'outoputapu, eighth to the throne of BAVERIA. Long live the King.

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This story rings so true to me, I too am a decendent of Pepa Hausi and Lotto who were taking to Tonga as servants of Tui Tonga I remember my Great Great Great Granfather Lotto Mauatasi Faitupe telling me this story and crying of how hard they worked cleaning the Kings Toilets and washing his dirty feet how it brought tears to my eyes and how proud I am to be giving the High Title of Lotto and Pepa Hausi...i look forward to seeing you all at our family meeting 8pm Saturday Night.

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4/14/2003

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It's really nice to know that these legends are still remember to this day Ka'a Siva Vae poupou is my name I never knew that people knew about my family story I was just passing through when I saw my family name posted I am living in Manua with my Dad Ka'a Siva Sili and Mom Lenofole fale Ka'a Siva Wow!! what a small world all our family out there Big Ups!!!

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4/14/2003

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i'am amazed to be reminded of such a majestic and powerfully told legend as the one about tonga's rule in samoa. i recall the names of pepa hausi and ka'asiva just to name a few, told to me by my dad the late supomoa, as he telled us all about the defiant samoan people and how the tongans were sent packing. today let us rejoice and praise the lord that we are not angry any more about the tongan people but rather let us look ahead to the future because it is the new mellinium and because it is 2003, so please dont be angry by past atrosoties; but lets live in harmony by the words of a grat man. "free at last free at last thank God almighty we, samoa are free at last".
yours in thought: Memilinda Britanny Schrewder Supomoa, Papu.

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4/14/2003

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HEY MEMILINDA ISINT YOUR REAL NAME; MELEGI PE'EPE'E SUPOMOA, PAPU?

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4/17/2003

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A wise teacher once said to me, " In Samoa, we are all kings." After reading all the stories in here, I didnt sense any hate just pride. It is hard to belive all the stories about kings and gobblins, origins and wars. I do belive in fixing the "Umu", respecting your elders and listen; listen very hard. Fa'afetai lava mo tala ole vavau. Ia manuia fuafuaga ole aso. HIS162@ASCC

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4/24/2003

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malo lava le kuluku. malo fo'i oe i lea vaega o tala ole vavau ali'i 4/14/03 11:37:07 toe tuli tatao mai latou tatou faagogo ua ta fia faalogologo. fa soifua!!!!!

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4/24/2003

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malo lava le kuluku. malo fo'i oe i lea vaega o tala ole vavau ali'i 4/14/03 11:37:07 toe tuli tatao mai latou tatou faagogo ua ta fia faalogologo. fa soifua!!!!!

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4/25/2003

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why don't everyone stop callin each other names... we all are supposed to be USOS and AIGAS in here...

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4/25/2003

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5/4/2003

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Im sadden by the fact that our Tradtion and Culture is start to fade away.Some of our elders are bought to change the foundation of of our sytem,matai title etc...Please dont let face of dead Presidents take you away from what our Forefathers taught us.

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5/4/2003

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Did you know that Tauala Luavasa was the only director arrested for stealing at-least $30,000 from TAOA.Yeah its true......

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5/5/2003

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what does it matter how much tauala luavasa embezzeled? its nothing new with ASG. its so common its like under the rug protocol, tauala luavasa just got caught, but how much money did tauese sunia sweep up? togiola? matagi mcmoore? daewo fiasco??

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5/6/2003

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and so our days of our lives!!!!!!!!

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5/14/2003

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Story about Sina and Naisaafa, Hey I forgot

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5/15/2003

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does anyone no the myth of he cocnut tree i mean this room is more of a chat room than anything else there is hardly any myths or legends in this place maybe people should actually start writing down storys insead of bitching about eachothers or little things, come on people we need more myths and legends ok.

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5/16/2003

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'E fa'amalo atu mo talosaga sogasoga, 'ae peita'i 'ua vevesitele le mata'upu 'ona o a tatou tala'aga. 'Ou te fa'afetai atu fo'i 'i le ma'elega 'o 'outou sa'ili'iliga, 'aua le moni o tatou silafaga 'ina 'ia mautinoa ma le sa'o. 'A 'o lea, se'i 'ou 'avatu na'o nai teisi 'i tala fa'a-Manu'a, 'aua 'e tu'u lava tala 'a Manu'a 'i tama 'a le Manu'a. 'O Tuimanu'a-Salofi, 'o lona masani 'o le folau solo 'i le vasa. Sa o'o lona folau 'i Fiti, a'o le taimi lea, 'o nofo mai lona tuafafine 'i Manu'a o le teine 'e igoa 'ia Seueatalitali. 'O le teine lea sa nofo ma (ao) pa'ia 'o le atunu'u 'atoa. 'Aua le toe fo'i mai 'o lona tuagane 'o Salofi. 'Ina 'ua toe fo'i mai Salofi 'i Manu'a, 'ona 'ave lea iai 'e lona tuafafine le (ao) 'o le Tuimanu'a. 'O Tuimanu'a-Salofi, sa usu 'ia Sinaoneonea, le alo-tama'ita'i 'o Vaeotagaloa 'i Onea, 'i Ta'u, 'i Manu'a. 'Ona fa'ae'e lea 'o le gafa. 'O le tama 'e igoa 'ia Leasau, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Moliga, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Nuanua, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Fuaali'i, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Tau'ese, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Lefiti, ma lo latou tuafafine 'e igoa 'ia Soaifetulemasina. 'O le teine lenei na 'avea ma Sa'o-Tama'ita'i 'o Soatoa. 'O Lefiti, sa fa'aigoa 'e lona tama 'o Tuimanu'a-Salofi 'ona 'o lona malaga fa'ato'a foi mai 'i Fiti. 'O le tama fo'i lenei, 'o le ui'i, 'o ia fo'i sa fai ma ta'ita'i 'o le Pupuali'i, 'ona 'o lona tama 'o Tuimanu'a-Salofi. 'A 'o le fanau 'uma lea 'a Tuimanu'a-Salofi, 'o latou ia 'o Ali'i 'i le nu'u 'o Si'ufaga, 'i Ta'u. 'O latou ia 'e nonofo 'i le itu-tauagavale 'o Tuimanu'a 'i totonu 'o le Fale'ula Tau-tagata.
'Ae sili ai 'ona fa'ai'u lenei mata'upu, 'aua ne'i te'i 'ua tatou fe'ese'esa'i ai, 'ae le 'o 'ia 'outou ni mea moni.
'O a'u 'e tagafa tonu mai 'i le Tuimanu'a, mai 'i le Tuimanu'a-Satiailemoa 'e o'o 'ia Tuimanu'a-Alaalamua-Tau'ilima (matua).
'Ia fa'atofa malie 'o 'outou finagalo, pe'a fai 'ua 'ou salatua, 'ae sili 'ona tepa 'i lo tatou malo 'ua maua. 'O le malo 'o le Atua, 'ua fusifusia ma li'oli'oina 'e le matuamaivai ma le alavatualua.
Fa'afetai ma Soifua.

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5/16/2003

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'E fa'amalo atu mo talosaga sogasoga, 'ae peita'i 'ua vevesitele le mata'upu 'ona o a tatou tala'aga. 'Ou te fa'afetai atu fo'i 'i le ma'elega 'o 'outou sa'ili'iliga, 'aua le moni o tatou silafaga 'ina 'ia mautinoa ma le sa'o. 'A 'o lea, se'i 'ou 'avatu na'o nai teisi 'i tala fa'a-Manu'a, 'aua 'e tu'u lava tala 'a Manu'a 'i tama 'a le Manu'a. 'O Tuimanu'a-Salofi, 'o lona masani 'o le folau solo 'i le vasa. Sa o'o lona folau 'i Fiti, a'o le taimi lea, 'o nofo mai lona tuafafine 'i Manu'a o le teine 'e igoa 'ia Seueatalitali. 'O le teine lea sa nofo ma (ao) pa'ia 'o le atunu'u 'atoa. 'Aua le toe fo'i mai 'o lona tuagane 'o Salofi. 'Ina 'ua toe fo'i mai Salofi 'i Manu'a, 'ona 'ave lea iai 'e lona tuafafine le (ao) 'o le Tuimanu'a. 'O Tuimanu'a-Salofi, sa usu 'ia Sinaoneonea, le alo-tama'ita'i 'o Vaeotagaloa 'i Onea, 'i Ta'u, 'i Manu'a. 'Ona fa'ae'e lea 'o le gafa. 'O le tama 'e igoa 'ia Leasau, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Moliga, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Nuanua, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Fuaali'i, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Tau'ese, 'o le tama 'e igoa 'ia Lefiti, ma lo latou tuafafine 'e igoa 'ia Soaifetulemasina. 'O le teine lenei na 'avea ma Sa'o-Tama'ita'i 'o Soatoa. 'O Lefiti, sa fa'aigoa 'e lona tama 'o Tuimanu'a-Salofi 'ona 'o lona malaga fa'ato'a foi mai 'i Fiti. 'O le tama fo'i lenei, 'o le ui'i, 'o ia fo'i sa fai ma ta'ita'i 'o le Pupuali'i, 'ona 'o lona tama 'o Tuimanu'a-Salofi. 'A 'o le fanau 'uma lea 'a Tuimanu'a-Salofi, 'o latou ia 'o Ali'i 'i le nu'u 'o Si'ufaga, 'i Ta'u. 'O latou ia 'e nonofo 'i le itu-tauagavale 'o Tuimanu'a 'i totonu 'o le Fale'ula Tau-tagata.
'Ae sili ai 'ona fa'ai'u lenei mata'upu, 'aua ne'i te'i 'ua tatou fe'ese'esa'i ai, 'ae le 'o 'ia 'outou ni mea moni.
'O a'u 'e tagafa tonu mai 'i le Tuimanu'a, mai 'i le Tuimanu'a-Satiailemoa 'e o'o 'ia Tuimanu'a-Alaalamua-Tau'ilima (matua).
'Ia fa'atofa malie 'o 'outou finagalo, pe'a fai 'ua 'ou salatua, 'ae sili 'ona tepa 'i lo tatou malo 'ua maua. 'O le malo 'o le Atua, 'ua fusifusia ma li'oli'oina 'e le matuamaivai ma le alavatualua.
Fa'afetai ma Soifua.

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5/17/2003

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O O l`oo nunumi lava le tala , e tolu lava alo o Salofi, matua Leasau,Moligama,ma Nua le ui`i, o Lefiti ole tamafai. O Taue`se ma Fuaali`i e le`o se fanau a Salofi. Tele le pisa ole le malamalama o tagata.O le fa`alupega o Manu`a ele iai Sotoa ma Lefiti ua iai nei ona ua so`ona fai e tagata.Ua tupu nei le pisa o tagata ole le malamalama,pau lava le mea e tatau ona ta`u ai Sotoa ma Lefiti ole pa`i Faleula,ona ole mamalu lea na ave ai e Salofi.Fesili po`o ai e faasigo ai le Faletolu po`o lea le Faletolu ona tou maua ai lea le tala o ai Moni le fanau a Salofi. A iai se fesili ona fai mai lea ae ua lava lea leaga ole a popoto ai fua le isi au valelea.

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5/17/2003

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O O l`oo nunumi lava le tala , e tolu lava alo o Salofi, matua Leasau,Moligama,ma Nua le ui`i, o Lefiti ole tamafai. O Taue`se ma Fuaali`i e le`o se fanau a Salofi. Tele le pisa ole le malamalama o tagata.O le fa`alupega o Manu`a ele iai Sotoa ma Lefiti ua iai nei ona ua so`ona fai e tagata.Ua tupu nei le pisa o tagata ole le malamalama,pau lava le mea e tatau ona ta`u ai Sotoa ma Lefiti ole pa`i Faleula,ona ole mamalu lea na ave ai e Salofi.Fesili po`o ai e faasigo ai le Faletolu po`o lea le Faletolu ona tou maua ai lea le tala o ai Moni le fanau a Salofi. A iai se fesili ona fai mai lea ae ua lava lea leaga ole a popoto ai fua le isi au valelea.

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5/17/2003

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O O l`oo nunumi lava le tala , e tolu lava alo o Salofi, matua Leasau,Moligama,ma Nua le ui`i, o Lefiti ole tamafai. O Taue`se ma Fuaali`i e le`o se fanau a Salofi. Tele le pisa ole le malamalama o tagata.O le fa`alupega o Manu`a ele iai Sotoa ma Lefiti ua iai nei ona ua so`ona fai e tagata.Ua tupu nei le pisa o tagata ole le malamalama,pau lava le mea e tatau ona ta`u ai Sotoa ma Lefiti ole pa`i Faleula,ona ole mamalu lea na ave ai e Salofi.Fesili po`o ai e faasigo ai le Faletolu po`o lea le Faletolu ona tou maua ai lea le tala o ai Moni le fanau a Salofi. A iai se fesili ona fai mai lea ae ua lava lea leaga ole a popoto ai fua le isi au valelea.

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5/22/2003

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Oute fia iloa po'o le a le uiga o lou tala "O le a popoto ai fua le isi au valelea." Oute fia iloa fo'i pe aisea le mea ua e faimai ai e le o se alo moni o Salofi Lefiti? Afai e moni lenei tala, aisea le mea e le o iai se nu'u e fa'apitoa mo nei tagata...ae iai le nu'u o Lefiti? O nai mea fo'i ia oute fia iloa ai...aua lou atamai ma lou fiapoto!!!

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6/3/2003

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Samoans united for ever, haters may as well go jump. My 1st time here, and i am taking such great offence to such unruly discrimination that has been written. For those who bag our people, u have no guts to confront us and say it to our faces. Our people have morals and long line of culture, and after all we are GODS people, samoa was founded on God. So god bless if i confront u on the street.

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6/3/2003

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Samoans united for ever, haters may as well go jump. My 1st time here, and i am taking such great offence to such unruly discrimination that has been written. For those who bag our people, u have no guts to confront us and say it to our faces. Our people have morals and long line of culture, and after all we are GODS people, samoa was founded on God. So god bless if i confront u on the street.

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6/10/2003

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I am in search of a Samoan Legend that is not only an explanation of how a landmark in Samoa came to be but also has a moral to the story that can give American children something to learn from the Samoan culture. I am a palagi girl that was raised in American Samoa and I moved away six years ago. I am now a film major at Montana State University, and I want to do my senior film on a legend from back home. Please send suggestions out on this channel. I will check them frequently. Thank you for your help. Ashley

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6/15/2003

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This site gets more interesting everytime, It shouldnt be called "Samoan Myths and Legends' I've found a new name for this site, howabout the 'Oprah Winfrey show'?

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6/16/2003

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Talofa samoa

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6/16/2003

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Talofa samoa

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6/20/2003

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I wanna know the nifo legend, anyone know it? I'm a NZ born Samoan and I wanted to know about these things, everyone here has bitched about this, that and the other and only a couple of things have become evident, 1, some of you peeps need to post your phone numbers so you can bitch to each other on the phone, not here and 2, we need more legends!!! hook us up!

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6/20/2003

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Oh, and to all the afakasi samoa-amelikan kirlz, you are all bangin!!! Go Robert-Louis Stevenson college/high-scool wateva

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6/20/2003

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Oh, and to all the afakasi samoa-amelikan kirlz, you are all bangin!!! Go Robert-Louis Stevenson college/high-scool wateva

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6/25/2003

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no it's not the opera winefery show it's the jerry springer show

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6/28/2003

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Tali-05/22/03 E pei ona ou fai atu ,sai'li le tali ola'u fesili ona e maua ai lea le tali o lau fesili .Ole taimi ma ona tala.O tala fo'i ole motu e le sona faia.E iai se fa'aupuga e fa'apea ,aua le fa'apotoa le valea aua ete valea ai. Ole uiga laea ole tala .

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6/28/2003

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Tali-05/22/03 E pei ona ou fai atu ,sai'li le tali ola'u fesili ona e maua ai lea le tali o lau fesili .Ole taimi ma ona tala.O tala fo'i ole motu e le sona faia.E iai se fa'aupuga e fa'apea ,aua le fa'apotoa le valea aua ete valea ai. Ole uiga laea ole tala .

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6/28/2003

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Tali-05/22/03 E pei ona ou fai atu ,sai'li le tali ola'u fesili ona e maua ai lea le tali o lau fesili .Ole taimi ma ona tala.O tala fo'i ole motu e le sona faia.E iai se fa'aupuga e fa'apea ,aua le fa'apotoa le valea aua ete valea ai. Ole uiga laea ole tala .

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6/30/2003

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O lea oute malamalama i le fa'aupuga lena, ae pei ta'i o lae oute fesili po'o o ai lae fa'apitoa ai lou tala. Po'o se tagata mai le aiga Sa Lefiti, po'o so'o seisi o lo'o fia iloa tala o Manu'a?

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7/5/2003

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Ia ga o mea uma ga.Ae peita'i ua tupu lenei mea ona o mea ia, ua fai nei ae le tu'u pea mea mai ananafi. Olea la ole a ola a'e lenei tupulaga ma fa'alogo iai ma latou faia ma latou lava manatu e sa'o, ae a fa'alogo ai le tagata malamalama e le manaia.O lo'o tele mea olo'o tutupu nei i Manu'a ua tatau lava ona fa'asao,ae soia ia aua o nei lava tagata o fa'afitauli e o'o ai lava le iuga ale Faletolu, aua e fai lava le finagalo ole Faletolu.A leai fo'i e uma lava nei tagata ona tu'u atu ile lua se'i tulou.

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7/5/2003

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Ia ga o mea uma ga.Ae peita'i ua tupu lenei mea ona o mea ia, ua fai nei ae le tu'u pea mea mai ananafi. Olea la ole a ola a'e lenei tupulaga ma fa'alogo iai ma latou faia ma latou lava manatu e sa'o, ae a fa'alogo ai le tagata malamalama e le manaia.O lo'o tele mea olo'o tutupu nei i Manu'a ua tatau lava ona fa'asao,ae soia ia aua o nei lava tagata o fa'afitauli e o'o ai lava le iuga ale Faletolu, aua e fai lava le finagalo ole Faletolu.A leai fo'i e uma lava nei tagata ona tu'u atu ile lua se'i tulou.

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7/5/2003

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Ia ga ua e iloa,o mea uma ga.

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7/5/2003

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Ia ga ua e iloa,o mea uma ga.

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7/9/2003

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TElesa was one of the leading ladies of samoa. She was the lady of LEpea. She protects her village people from outside people and diciplines her people when what they do dont meet her standards. NOw, Just recently a taxi driver was bringing home a woman of lepea and her child one night when upon questioning foung out that she had no money for the taxi fare. So he dumped her outside and turned aroung and started driving. Then he saw a beautiful lady standing and waving for the taxi to stop. She was wearing a lavalava. Now, the man somehow knew what she was (A GHOUST of some sort)but counldn't resist her beauty and his carnal need...lol. So he asks her where she wants to go and she replies, " Infront of LEpea" MEaning where the houses of the matais are.... or something, You know? Where those fale samoas are? Well, she wanted to go there. ANd so he drove her there. The she told him to wait as she had to run inside to get the money for the taxi. SHe got outside and ran and soon disappeared. THe ran waited for nearly about half an hour and just when he was loosing patience a voice in the back of his car said, " Well, why are we waiting? LEts go?" He turns around and there she was smiling at him. HE was shaking with fear! Then she directed him to this river either in lepea or near lepea. Then on his radio he called for backup. The lady commented on how smart he was and asked him if he khew who she was. she said in a voice trembling, " I don't know" THEn she told him asked him if he knew what he had done wrong. Then she told him after he didnt say anything. THe lady and her child was a resident of lepea and was mistreated by an outsider. tHEN SHE PROCEEDED TO DO WHAT SHE DOES BEST... BEAT HIM UP WITH HERIMMORTAL POWERS! Then the backup he called came and foung him, nearly dead.... then they took him to the hospital. Til this day he is still alive but very frightened at night.

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7/25/2003

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7/30/2003

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I dont know wheather you guys know this one.... but it's a classic in good old poly-lua!! O le tala ia puTu ma iTa... (*go figure*) Ia o Patu, o se tama e tumu i le alofa, ae fia saua!! a'o le tama o Ita e ese le talenia, ae le fa'amaoni! Ae tu'u fa'atasi le to'alua lea, na e iloa loa le mea e ta'u o le CHAOS!!... Just ask Burger King

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8/4/2003

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Talofa, Ta fia ta,u atua le pogai o mea uma i le TuiManua mai i le amataga se,i o,o i le taimi na ta,ape ai papa male Faleula o le TuiManua ina ua omai Leifi ma Tautolo (Tafua ma Fuataga) fanau ale tuafafine o le TuiManua o ma TUMU talu le alofa o le TuiNanua i lona Tuafafine,ia ae sa,o ai oe ua lava ia i,i nei te,i ua poto ai se isi.ou te alofa i o,u aiga i manua ae ou te popole foi i tumua ia na aumai ia te a,u e tausi ai tupu i Tumua.aua ne,i manu,a se finagalo email mai au I love to talk some more and stop le fia-sili get the fact straight

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8/11/2003

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One day in Samoa there was a shit head name Toa and she was a girl and everybody hated her because she was a shithead.So this girl was so ugly that she had to put on mask.Even her legs was covered up by bag, because her legs look like two pieces of chicken. So then one day a man came to her and said I want to eat your legs and now she got no more legs and now shes known as the dumb ass shithead/chicken legs. THE F*** END. buy shitheads.

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8/11/2003

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This is a story of ugly dumb ass name Toa.She was an ugly girl who lived in Tutuila.She came to California in 2001.She was so ugly she had to put on a mask.Even her legs had to be covered up with bags.If she ever take the bags off people would want to eat them because they looked like two pieces of chicken.So then from that day on the people called her chicken legs.

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8/21/2003

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There was this girl called Simoli and she had this crush on this guy callled Fugu and they were both samoans

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8/31/2003

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hei wat up bols this is such a kool site if a girl named Telesia Tevaga is reading this F*** you for not writhing to us man u said that u will write back to us when you get there!! so what happened you just forgot about us and moved on well you know what F*** you!!!! From tina

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9/10/2003

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3:39:12 AM

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9/10/2003

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THERE ONCE WAS A FAMILY OF RAPISTS WHO COME FROM AUCKLAND NZ, THEY CARRY THE LAST NAME 'AE' THEIR NAMES ARE LIGA AE,SOGE AE, PALOTA AE THEY HAVE A BITCH OF MOTHER CALLED FAIA AE, THEY LIKE TO MOLEST LITTLE KIDS, NOW THATS A DISGRACE TO THE SAMOAN CULTURE!

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9/11/2003

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ONCE THERE WAS A FAMILY WHO CARRY THE LAST NAME AE, - AND ANYONE WHO CARRY THE LAST NAME AE IS A RAPIST

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10/7/2003

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10/14/2003

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Just passing thru and saw the first post on Saumaiafe 11/1/2001 - low and behold what utter ROT. Whoever wrote that story obviously don't know any Saleimoa people!!!

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10/15/2003

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who ever said that samoans are ufa's listen here your the ufa around here you kefe dumb ass!!!!.......

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10/15/2003

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who ever said that samoans are ufa's listen here your the ufa around here you kefe dumb ass!!!!.......
oh yeah f*** who ever said that

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10/27/2003

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This is just too damn funny.

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10/30/2003

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just passin thru and wat da f*** deres alot of haters,bullshitters and all up in here!!!some of you people need to log your freakn personal hatemail else wea.....fugg'n disgrace if u ask me!!...oh and i would like to comment on the story about saumaiafe i couldnt find it becoz of all other different shit up in here....but im from sale'imoa...and you know wat my name is sauma'iafe so yall betta stop slanderin mah name.....please....thank you!!!..and i am a GOOD ghost just dont piss me off!!!!

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10/30/2003

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5:34:38 AM

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saumaeafe is correctly spelt SAUMA'IAFE!!!...i should know dats mah name!!!!!!

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10/31/2003

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2:34:33 PM

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your all queers

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11/1/2003

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U MUST BE 1 TOO FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COMMENT UP IN HERE!!..FUGG'N HIPPI!!!!!!!!!...QUEER DIS!!!!

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11/9/2003

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HI EVERY BODY THAK U GOOD-BYE

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11/11/2003

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Talofa Lava, first of all i would like to say my dedications to all my friends out there who go to McAuley High School in South Auckland. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND MAKE OUR SCHOOL PROUD ... ...."Domine inte Speravi"
I do apologise to those who think this is a myth or a legend BUT i am studying one of the famous legends ..."Sina and the Eel" This is for Drama, one of the subjects i take at school and currently we are doing an assessment on Sina and the Eel. Not only this story but other myths/legends.
I need to find out if you could tell me; a) How people told myths/legends? e.g sat down with a mat and the lights off b) Why were the stories told at that time? c) What techniques were used? d) Who told the stories? e) Was there any form of theatre? f) Describe it

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11/13/2003

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go ask yo daddy if he doesnt know oh well sorry

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11/17/2003

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Fuck you all, fucking butthead Samoans. Aikae!

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12/2/2003

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Well well well, looks like we have a lot of bored people on this website. So bored that they have to comment rudely about others and their family members. I thought that I was entering onto this website to read about the interesting stories that people have to share with others respectively. Oh well typical that there are always a few to spoil what is good. What I suggest is that those of you who would seriously like to share the myths and legends that have been passed on to you is to share but to not take so personally if the story is wrong or right because maybe this is your chance to educate others of what you know. To the others who just really love posting the unacceptable messages like on the 11/17/03, why not find out the personal emails of the persons in question and advertise your grudges that way so that we are not all involved in your issues. Oti doti can anyone please post something that is worth reading please!

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12/15/2003

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hell that took me ages to get to the bottom of this trash...must say...y'all know how to talk shit...the point of Myths and Legends is like the fable "the boy who cried wolf" to the palagi's it's fantasy-created lesson in life, something with a moral to it...i say hate on with yall badselves its part of being human, i don't see anyone writing they're addresses and shit, so why not??? and don't try and stop people from hating, its the INTERNET...pretty much free-play...so i say let PORN/OBSENITIES/COARSE LANGUAGE/HATE reign on this page coz that's all its good for...like whoever said previously...wanna know the story...go fucken ask the old timers...don't matter what version you get, as long as you get that warm funny feeling inside with a lesson in life learnt then that's all that fucken matters...
p.s to that dude that's into cannibalism of that kind...hollah back at me, i'll be in for that can-ya-ball-in-me
LOVE, PEACE and for the afro some COCO GREASE...

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12/23/2003

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Moso and Nifoloa were one and the same demon. Moso was from Fiji and known as Moa -tiale (centre/ stomach) The village of Falelima on the south west coast of savaii is where Nifoloa made his home. That is why the Tooth sickness befalls a person who insults someone of Falelima . There have been some unexplainable cases of this sickness where the person coughs up objects which look like teeth or small teeth come out of a wound which has refused to heal for a long time.

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12/23/2003

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Moso and Nifoloa were one and the same demon. Moso was from Fiji and known as Moa -tiale (centre/ stomach) The village of Falelima on the south west coast of savaii is where Nifoloa made his home. That is why the Tooth sickness befalls a person who insults someone of Falelima . There have been some unexplainable cases of this sickness where the person coughs up objects which look like teeth or small teeth come out of a wound which has refused to heal for a long time.

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12/23/2003

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hey while this is all exciting enough what about Pulemelei mound at Palauli on big island Savaii! This is some serious prehistoric monument which is still the undisputed largest man made prehistoric structure in Polynesia! Who built it?? Since no one really knows its origin and what we've heard so far is speculation. From looking at it and making out what is must have looked like in when it was just built it kinda reminds one of those flat top pyramids in south america the ones with the steps going up the middle. The NZ maoris were there a while ago saying this is probably the birthplace of Polynesia (what with Savaii closely sounding with Hawaiki or Avaiki depending on the language). they did some cleansing ritual etc and ready to dig it up but the Palauli chiefs stopped them. who knows what light could have been shed on our origins. Something to think about.. not really a legend but an existing solid structure in rock.

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12/23/2003

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hey while this is all exciting enough what about Pulemelei mound at Palauli on big island Savaii! This is some serious prehistoric monument which is still the undisputed largest man made prehistoric structure in Polynesia! Who built it?? Since no one really knows its origin and what we've heard so far is speculation. From looking at it and making out what is must have looked like in when it was just built it kinda reminds one of those flat top pyramids in south america the ones with the steps going up the middle. The NZ maoris were there a while ago saying this is probably the birthplace of Polynesia (what with Savaii closely sounding with Hawaiki or Avaiki depending on the language). they did some cleansing ritual etc and ready to dig it up but the Palauli chiefs stopped them. who knows what light could have been shed on our origins. Something to think about.. not really a legend but an existing solid structure in rock.

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12/24/2003

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hey that nifo falelima stori sure is SPOOKEEEE. what about the ifi tree - theres always belief that the aikus meet under thea to smoke their pakalolo so stay away from so'ai ifi at nite payce.... out

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12/24/2003

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HEY ALL YOU AIKUS OUT THERE!! STOP THE WARRING & MAKE PEACE!! MERRY XMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! LUV YAS

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1/8/2004

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Ran out of myths?
hello!
anyone there?

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1/8/2004

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Happy New year brothers and sisters
Lets all start this year without the bagging and stapping of one another, if you wanna do that, go to a chat room and do it. I would really like to hear more of our history regarding "myths and legends" the once our great great grandparents and grandparents use to tell us. As for me, I can only recall a portion of it as I was only 9 or 10 years old when I left Samoa 25 years ago. The generation that passed on this stories are slowly passing away, with it our Myths and legends. On my 5 trip back to Samoa since I left, I'll make it my mission to obsorb as much as can from family elders.
until then keep those stories flowing.

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1/10/2004

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9:39:08 PM

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THIS IS JUST A LITTLE COMMENT I WANTED TO ADD ON THE LEGEND ABOUT NIFI FROM TOAMUA, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF YOU'RE FROM THE VILLAGE OF TOAMUA IF YOU ARE PLEASE WHO ARE YOU? I AM THE GRAND-DAUGHTER OF INIFI ULUGIA KITARA,OH! BY THE WAY THE TOA'S NAME IS INIFI, I BELIEVE YOU POST THAT LEGEND BACK IN MARCH 1ST 2002 YOUR STORY WAS PRETTY TRUE IT'S JUST THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY...MALO LAVA

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1/10/2004

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THIS IS JUST A LITTLE COMMENT I WANTED TO ADD ON THE LEGEND ABOUT NIFI FROM TOAMUA, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF YOU'RE FROM THE VILLAGE OF TOAMUA IF YOU ARE PLEASE WHO ARE YOU? I AM THE GRAND-DAUGHTER OF INIFI ULUGIA KITARA,OH! BY THE WAY THE TOA'S NAME IS INIFI, I BELIEVE YOU POST THAT LEGEND BACK IN MARCH 1ST 2002 YOUR STORY WAS PRETTY TRUE IT'S JUST THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY...MALO LAVA

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1/15/2004

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Anyone know the full stories of the Sau'ai's? You know, the giants? Where'd they all come from, and gone to?

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1/16/2004

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anybody know the true story of Mauga in Pago Pago? How he became paramount chief of the village?

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1/16/2004

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anybody know the true story of Mauga in Pago Pago? How he became paramount chief of the village?

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1/20/2004

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Ole uiga ole tapaau faasisina na mafua mai i le malaga atu Malietoa i Manua.

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1/21/2004

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Mauga is just a high chief title in Pago long time ago..however it became a paramount chief title when Tuaolo- Le na faa-sefulu ai le motu (who brought the 10th kingdom or faalupega from Nafanua when the war goddess was distributing her malos- faalupega)gave the malo to Mauga and he from thereon have been a paramount chief. IN return for Tuaolo's great respect and gift for Mauga- Tuaolo became the Highest Talking Chief of PagoPago. The malo became the faalupega for Mauga and the whole Tutuila Island ..Afifio Sua ma Vaifanua...Fofo ma Aitulagi..Ituau ma Alatua..Saole ma Launiusaelua Faapea Maopu. That is how Mauga became one of the Paramount Chiefs in Tutuila . However I dont know his title came about..That is my taumafaiga vaivai..Faafetai!

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1/28/2004

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In reply to question on sau'ais 1/15/04 - giants are common in the myths of nearly all countries around the world. There were people of exceptional height and strength as evidenced in the bible refers to a race of giants (of which Goliath was a remnant)they were probably a race who died out long ago. So maybe some of them existed in samoa.

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2/2/2004

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2/4/2004

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at the top of this page, i was amazed to see what my culture was about...then i read a story, about the moliga clan and others...apparently he had the story wrong, right away other samoans call him an idiot and put him down...instead of correcting him, they just put him down..teach him the correct way like how the Teacher of Samoa from above would like us too...since we all dont know our families, ALL SAMOANS AGREE WHO THE CREATOR IS.....teach eachother...im one that was put down by others of my own...and they dont know me...

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2/4/2004

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11:32:19 PM

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i dont know if this is true or not, but i am from da mainlands but i have been to samoa is the village of tula, but is it true dat if you see a crab roaming around in da street that it is no crab its an aitu??? juss curious...

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3/19/2004

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1:27:07 AM

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i know that the lutu family of fagatogo is widely spreading. i am just wondering what is our lutu family history?

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3/21/2004

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3:19:48 AM

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There once were villages called KFC and McDonalds in Samoa, but the people were bad so Tagaloa banished these villages to the USA. So when Samoans see KFC and McDonalds it reminds them of the villages they once had back home and therefore pay homage to Tagaloa by visiting KFC and McDonalds 24/7.

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3/26/2004

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hi

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3/26/2004

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1:02:43 PM

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sniff my ass

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3/26/2004

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1:03:23 PM

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sniff my ass

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3/26/2004

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1:05:21 PM

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one time there was a killing dandylion teeth were as big an my toilet. :>

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3/29/2004

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3/29/2004

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3/30/2004

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Just wanna comment on the legends/myths that have been mentioned in here. from what i've learned in school. all of our (Samoan) legends/myths are known as prehistory not history. Why? because they are stories that have been orally transmitted by our ancestors to one generation and then the next until today. so, this is where all the confusions took place because people tell their own versions of what they know about the story (ies) and yet we dont know who it telling the right story. We cant claim who was the rightful king or who came to be the high chief of each village because our stories has no kind of written evidence. My point is, there is no right or wrong answer to each story and we cant even get our facts straight because there is no written evidence to claim who was/is right or wrong. telling your own version of the story(ies) is not important here, but knowing and believing that they did exists in the past is very important. faimai le tala a lo'u faiaoga ( e tala lasi samoa) it means, samoa has many versions of their stories. what does matter is for us to understand about what those legends and myths meant to us and our country. soifua. UH student

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3/30/2004

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Just wanna comment on the legends/myths that have been mentioned in here. from what i've learned in school. all of our (Samoan) legends/myths are known as prehistory not history. Why? because they are stories that have been orally transmitted by our ancestors to one generation and then the next until today. so, this is where all the confusions took place because people tell their own versions of what they know about the story (ies) and yet we dont know who it telling the right story. We cant claim who was the rightful king or who came to be the high chief of each village because our stories has no kind of written evidence. My point is, there is no right or wrong answer to each story and we cant even get our facts straight because there is no written evidence to claim who was/is right or wrong. telling your own version of the story(ies) is not important here, but knowing and believing that they did exists in the past is very important. faimai le tala a lo'u faiaoga ( e tala lasi samoa) it means, samoa has many versions of their stories. what does matter is for us to understand about what those legends and myths meant to us and our country. soifua. UH student

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3/30/2004

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aloha, i need help... can anyone help me examine the history of vaitogi and the existence of the laumei and malie. if anyone knows what the story of the laumei and malie is, pls. post your version to the story up in hea
faamolemole lava... faafetai, student (Hilo)

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3/30/2004

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8:09:35 PM

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aloha, i need help... can anyone help me examine the history of vaitogi and the existence of the laumei and malie. if anyone knows what the story of the laumei and malie is, pls. post your version to the story up in hea
faamolemole lava... faafetai, student (Hilo)

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4/5/2004

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12:54:39 PM

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there's a crap in my tolet

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4/6/2004

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Vaai outou mea ga fai aku ai lou Tama ma lou Tina eke fa'alogo ae e fiapoto.ia lea la ua tusi ai lou valea i luga o lenei laupapa. Fa'afetai Le fia matamata

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4/7/2004

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Story about Matu'u village

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4/7/2004

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3:36:49 AM

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legend of Matu'u

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4/7/2004

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just dont believe how people abuse this website with words i dont believe should be written in here. whoever posted craps and all dem trashes up in hea, is not a true samoan, maybe if you are samoan, you parents never taught discipline and respect in your world at all. if you have nothing to comment on in hea, dont waste yo' time postin' trashes and sh**, cause it aint worth a hearing. i hope you read this and learn from it. if you cant except the fact that its true, than you must be outta yo' mind. wanna write craps and all, alu i le chatroom.com, there you will find yo' kind of people. ae aua le sau i totonu o le website lea ma faaleaga mea aoga o loo taumafai uso ma tuagane Samoa e fesoasoani ai i le isi tagata. wanna add somethin' fo' me i'll be more than happy to receive a reply from you wit' yo' name and yo' information on it. fa laia.

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4/7/2004

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just dont believe how people abuse this website with words i dont believe should be written in here. whoever posted craps and all dem trashes up in hea, is not a true samoan, maybe if you are samoan, you parents never taught discipline and respect in your world at all. if you have nothing to comment on in hea, dont waste yo' time postin' trashes and sh**, cause it aint worth a hearing. i hope you read this and learn from it. if you cant except the fact that its true, than you must be outta yo' mind. wanna write craps and all, alu i le chatroom.com, there you will find yo' kind of people. ae aua le sau i totonu o le website lea ma faaleaga mea aoga o loo taumafai uso ma tuagane Samoa e fesoasoani ai i le isi tagata. wanna add somethin' fo' me i'll be more than happy to receive a reply from you wit' yo' name and yo' information on it. fa laia.

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4/8/2004

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12:33:58 PM

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once there was this kid and his life story is he triped over nothing got hit by a parked car and dround in a empty pool.

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4/8/2004

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12:37:48 PM

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Hi my name is F#$@ and I just finished Pis$#%^.

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4/8/2004

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12:37:57 PM

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Hi my name is F#$@ and I just finished Pis$#%^.

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4/8/2004

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12:39:37 PM

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The day is febuary 31 2009. the whole city is in a boob

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4/8/2004

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My head is so huge that my but is a in a the bridge uh the bird is a toilet and the is a him then I thought and He and uhh oh forget it

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4/8/2004

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MYTHS

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4/19/2004

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Could someone tell me about the myths and legends of falealupo?

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4/19/2004

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11:18:36 PM

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hi guys

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4/20/2004

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6:31:28 AM

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Hello from the South Pacific!!
You all need to come to the islands and connect your manna with us. We are the real thang, sorry you lost your link.

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4/30/2004

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really good myths and legends i reckon this should be a live tv talk show, wada ya reckon if people aren't gonna respect this wonderful website that's meant to be for SAMOAN MYTHS and LEGENDS im a samoan and proud to be, those that don't like us, may god bless you!

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4/30/2004

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really good myths and legends i reckon this should be a live tv talk show, wada ya reckon if people aren't gonna respect this wonderful website that's meant to be for SAMOAN MYTHS and LEGENDS im a samoan and proud to be, those that don't like us, may god bless you!

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4/30/2004

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really good myths and legends i reckon this should be a live tv talk show, wada ya reckon if people aren't gonna respect this wonderful website that's meant to be for SAMOAN MYTHS and LEGENDS im a samoan and proud to be, those that don't like us, may god bless you!

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5/3/2004

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theres this legend about a *gifo*. not sure what it is but it travels between kukuila and samoa looking out for the Fagalima villagers in Savaii. (like the Teine-Sa in lepea?) apparantly, its much more powerful than teine-sa's. I heard that if you diss any of those Fagalima villagers, the gifo will come after you and a boil will appear on your body (even on your muli). anyways, whoever gets it if not treated will DIE!! yeah that means you all...if anyone dares comment back dissing this myth as a lie will get on the muli!! ( also im from fagalima)

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5/3/2004

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6:59:18 AM

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ahhahahaha

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5/5/2004

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This is for the idiot who created the manu'a website The last tuimanu'a who ever lived was tuimanu'a Elisara who gave up his title as tuimanu'a for the gospel and told the manu'a people there is only one god.......and where did tuimanu'a chris young come from....lol@ your stupid ass...and you say you know this because he is your grandfather....you know what im a true manucan from the village of tau and my dad is a to'oto'o .....so take your aladdin stories and shove it..lol@ your dumbass... TALA O MANU'A E TU'U ILE TALIGA E LE TUSIA....CHRIS YOUNG AINT NO F@@KEN TUIMANU'A....
VASA .T JR. aka pridefighta

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5/5/2004

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This is for the idiot who created the manu'a website The last tuimanu'a who ever lived was tuimanu'a Elisara who gave up his title as tuimanu'a for the gospel and told the manu'a people there is only one god.......and where did tuimanu'a chris young come from....lol@ your stupid ass...and you say you know this because he is your grandfather....you know what im a true manucan from the village of tau and my dad is a to'oto'o .....so take your aladdin stories and shove it..lol@ your dumbass... TALA O MANU'A E TU'U ILE TALIGA E LE TUSIA....CHRIS YOUNG AINT NO F@@KEN TUIMANU'A....
VASA .T JR. aka pridefighta

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5/5/2004

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does anyone know any samoan health myths

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5/6/2004

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Comments written on 5/5/2004 check your stories before publishing it on the net. Chris Young is a decedant of a (Tuimanua - woman) She was the one that was burned after holding the title less than a year. After her was Tuimanua Elisara. Regarding the gospel part of your story. Check the dates. Manu'a people knew about God before Christianity got to our islands. Please respect all people of Manu'a and don't be mad. Thank you and have a great day.

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5/6/2004

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Commented dtd 5/5/2004 - you should really be aware of what your writing on the net. Chris Young is a decedant of (Tuimanu'a)the lady that was burned after holding the title less than a year. There Tuimanu'a was before your Tuimanua Elisara. For us that were decedant of this great name, respect and be humble. Much Alofas to you all Manua people the Motusa

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5/14/2004

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10:27:09 PM

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May 14, 2004
TO ALL OF THE DEBATERS & WRITERS OF TUIMANU'A STORIES
It was nice reading all of your nonesense debate and stories about TUI MANU'A and his sons. Please do all yourselves a favor, STOP! STOP! all of your stories are NONSENSE. IT ONLY GOES TO SHOW THAT NONE OF YOU ARE from the TUIMANU'A CLAN. All of you are FOOLS and WANNA BE's. TRUE MEMBERS OF THE TUIMANU'A CLAN WILL NEVER BOTHER AND WON'T WASTE ANY TIME TO TRY TO TELL ANY OF THEIR STORIES RESPONDING TO THE NONSENSE WHOM ALL OF YOU GOT GOING ON IN HERE. WHY? BECAUSE THEIR HISTORY IS SACRED AND KEPT AMONG FAMILIES ONLY AND DEFINITELY NOT TO SHARE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO DEBATE ABOUT. ONLY TRUE MEMBERS KNOW THE TRUTH AND TREASURE THEM IN THEIR HEARTS.
SOIFUA.

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5/17/2004

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3:54:22 AM

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Talofa Lava, olea le mea ua outou fai ai lenei meavalea o le faalogO atu loa e sese mai lea ona oso lea i le valea.Faimai foi le upu e iloa lava le samoa i lona tu ma lana tautala aisea le mea e ala ona le tatou mulimuli i upu sa tatou omai ai? Faamolemole ia tatou tu pei ose tu ose samoa, a le ole avaava e togi atu loa faasalalau.Nei lava mea o tala mai ona mua ae ua outou lafoia ai lava upu leaga i le lua te tuaoi,tatou lava e tasi.Mo outou samoa fiapalagi faamolemole soia ia le matagaga ana tou le o atu i fafo tou te leiloa le mea e tau o le wazz up,ae toe tagai i tua i la aso na tatou amo popo ai ma afuafu ane i le umukuku. "IOE"
O lau story lea e faatatau i le toa samoa e igoa ia tama Faiga.Sa ou faalogO i tala fai mai o lenei toa sa fai lona pa i se mea o savaii o lea pa sa tuu ai ona ava e alu solo i lea nu'u ma su'e mai ai se ava e fia mana'o iai ma ia ave ona tu'u lea i le pa sa ia fausia. Mai le nu'u mulimuli sa ia maua mai lona ava e atoa ai le 99, ua le maua le nu'u mulimuli ona ia mafaufau lea e asia mai le nu'u o Fasito'o mo sona ava e atoa ai le 100 o ona ava,a'o lei asia mai e lenei toa malosi le nu'u o Fasito'o sa faalogo le nu'u o le'a sau le toa ona latou fai lea ose plan latou te fasiotia ai lenei toa saua sa a'au mai le toa mai savai'i o'o mai i le pau matu ona savali lea ile nu'u ao lea taimi ua nunu le nu'u atoa aua o latou sauni mo le fasiotiga o lenei toa.Sa savali atu o ia ma savali i totonu ole fale a'o moe se tamaitai lalelei ona ia toso mai lea o le tamaitai i fafo ma ia sauni atu e toe foi i le sami a'o savali oia ae vaai atu ile vaega o tagata o loo solo mai ia te ia, sa ia tau ma le malosi ae peitai ua ia le mafai ona o le toatele o le vaega tau.O lea la sa o'o i le sami le fasia o lenei toa sa togi i le tao ma fasi i lima,ma masaa ai lona toto i le nu'u o Fasitoo mai le taimi nei o loo faaigoa ai le isi vaega o Fasitoo o LEPISI-FASITOO.(Lepisi lea sa pisia ai lona toto) O lona vaega o le tino o loo tanu i tua o le fale o le faifeau o lona ulu ma ona vae i lalo i le itu taumatau o le taumalie ao lona tino i le agavale o le taumalie.Afai ae iai se isi na te iloa se vaega o lenei tala ia o loo avanoa le laupepa e faasoa mai ai sou manatu oute talitonu e le o le iuga lea ole tala ae afai e iai se isi e iloa ia faamole- mole faasa'o ane i luga o lenei laupepa ma lou faaaloalo lava ua ou tusia ai lenei pepa.
LE ATUA IO TATOU VA MA LO'U FA'AALOALO LAVA SOIFUA MA IA MANUIA.

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5/20/2004

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4:38:36 AM

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This is the true Samoan legend, If you disagree, than I think you are not a true Samoan. Look deep down in your heart and than write your opinion. Samoan people are: Lotoleaga, faitatala, e vaai atu loa ua lelei le isi uso, alu fa'aleaga. Fa'amaualuga, fiatagata. What are the Samoan: Oh hea: You can never find these in the world: Loto Alofa, lima foa'i, loto fa'amagalo, agamalu, your best friend for life. E alofa i so'o se tagata. E muamua le Atua, Matua, Aiga ae mulimuli le fanau. So to the people who want to know about the legend of Samoa. These are Samoan people, no matter where you are in the world, You are a True Samoa in heart. You travel around four corner of the world, you are True Samoa. So all my beloved Samoan people, It is sad to hear you folks fight over title, who is the highest. O ai e sili lona suafa mata'i, o ai e tele ona fanua, Va'ai tatou uma Samoa, e le ose tatou nuu moni lenei, A o'o mai le vala'au, ia e tu'u uma mea ale lalolagi, ae alu na'o oe i lau malaga. Samoa e pele oe i lo'u agaga, no matter where I go, my beloved Samoa stay with me until I die. Tofa Soifua le Atunu'u pele ile agaga.
A True Samoa

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5/24/2004

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5:55:06 AM

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anyone know the cookie dude that once concoured the whole of samoa