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SAMOAN MYTHS & LEGENDS

Stories from the Past...............

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11/1/2001

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2:49:54 AM

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THE STORY OF SAUMAEAFE
SAUMAEAFE IS A FEMALE AITU whose home village is Saleimoa. She is half human and half demon. Her father Sami lived in Alamutu, Saleimoa. Her mother was an aitu with whom Sami had intercourse, mistaking her for a human being because of her beauty.
Not everyone in Saleimoa is familiar with Saumaeafe’s appearance. She is a lady of extraordinary beauty. She has pretty breasts and fine hair. However, when she is angry she turns quite ugly. She then looks like a wrinkled old woman with coarse hair. If she wants to tempt a young man to become her husband, she appears in her most pleasing form, with voluptuous breasts and yellowish brown hair. Should the young man resist, she kills him.
Saumaeafe pursues all the handsome young males in Samoa and is constantly in search of new conquests from Falealupo, at the far end of Savaii, to Tutuila. She is jealous of all the virgins and if a chief’s son should court one, she kills her.
A young man becomes aware of her presence when he suddenly awakens from his sleep. He sits up and looks in vain for the person who has disturbed him. His nostrils are assailed by the odours of sandalwood and sea fruits that fill his mosquito net. When Saumaeafe has possessed him, he falls into a deep sleep from which he does not awaken until late in the morning. When he gets up, the people wonder at his handsome appearance and his heightened colour. He looks as if he had been exposed to the sun. No young man is keen on such a visitation for, if Saumaeafe finds out that he has another sweetheart, he is liable to pay with his life.
The following incident happened in the year 1890. A lady with brown hair, bunched up as if for the purpose of providing shade, dressed in a kilt of ti leaves, her breasts draped with what is known as bat wing cloth, was walking along the main road of Fasitoo. The villagers were surprised at her beauty and wondered where she had come from, for no travelling party had arrived in town.
When the lady reached the west end of Fasitoo, she was accosted by one of the village chiefs and invited to come to his house for a kava. Very much annoyed, she said: “Shut up. You have no business to talk to me.” The chief retorted, “I haven’t said anything un-becoming. I just invited you to take a cup of kava with me.” “Don’t you dare talk to me,” the lady angrily replied and vanished into thin air.

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12/15/2001

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2:16:59 PM

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There was a girl called ogga pauwa and she was a ugly sea turd. One day a man found the sea turd and he was a bum and then took the sea turd home and cooked it and ate it was dinndinns

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12/18/2001

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1:19:07 AM

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One legend by oratory in Manu’a was about Tuimanu’a and his three sons. Long ago Manu’a was ruled by Tuimanu’a Salofi. He had three sons Nuanuaolefeagaiga, Moligasa, and Leasausemanuiaolenu’u. One day Tuimanu’a Salofi wanted to visit a close friend the tuifiti, and so he planned a voyage to the islands of Fiji with his three sons. When they arrived there, they were treated with great respect by the tuifiti and his people. After about two months the Tuimanu’a and his three sons were ready for their voyage back to Manu’a. They said their farewells to the tuifiti and his people and off they went into the vast blue sea back to Manu’atele. The islands of Fiji were out of sight, and Tuimanu’a Salofi sensed something wrong, and so he told his son Moligasa to look in the back of the canoe to see what was there. When Moligasa looked in the back he found a “Tamafiti” (Fijian boy) hiding in the bottom part of the canoe. Nuanuaolefeagaiga and Leasausemanuiaolenu’u stopped the boat and were ready to throw the unknown boy in the ocean to be stranded and die due to his disrespect to their father Tuimanu’a Salofi. Before they were about to throw the boy out in the ocean Tuimanu’a stopped them and told his three sons to spare his life and make him their adopted brother. The three sons obeyed their father and took him to Manu’a, and made him their adopted brother (Uso fai). They named him Lefiti (The Fijian). He was the one to do all the things representing the Tuimanu’a and his three sons. Even though the last Tuimanu’a (Elisara) passed and took the title with him to the grave, the four names of the sons of Salofi are high titles in Manu’a, which are Nua(Nuanuaolefeagaiga) Moliga(Moligasa) Leasau(Leasausemanuiaolenu’u) and Lefiti.
Nua, Moliga, and Leasau are the true bloodline of their family, which go back in generations, Lefiti on the other hand actually tried to over-ride these three brothers. But only if he could remember where he came from……..

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2/6/2002

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9:17:36 PM

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UIYHITAYUITYUIRGYRUI

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2/9/2002

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7:53:27 PM

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Fuiava is feared becuase of the 'nifo' origin. The story of a small man found in a coconut shell, by Fuiava, long time ago. The small man has super powers that can destroy any enemies of the Fuiava lineage, a protector of the aiga. People are affaraid of it, because its stories are real. I wonder!

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3/1/2002

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7:28:37 PM

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The chief of western samoa was malietoa. He went to visit all the villages and find a brave man who can eat the banana he had. Every village didnt want to eat it, but this guy name nifi was brave enough to try and eat it.So he seen Nifi brooming in front of his house, he went up to nifi and dared him to eat it. SO nifi took a bite and threw down the banana peels and it turned into rocks.So from that day on, they called this village where NIfi lived TOAMUA. toa means brave and mua means first.

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3/21/2002

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3:45:54 PM

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in american samoa there was an old lady and a daughter.One day maietoa needed food and it was the girls and her grandma's turn to feed the king but then during that time the girl and her grandma was poor so then they went to the ocean and drowned themselves and became a turtle and a shark. now when you go to american samoa you could go on a boat and sing a song to make them come to shore and its true... The song goes something like this....... Laumei faiama sau sei fasusu lau tama.....

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3/21/2002

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3:46:47 PM

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4/15/2002

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12:42:25 AM

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This is in reference to the Manua story about the Tuimanua sons Nua, Moliga and Leasau'u. This is to show that who ever wrote this story is an idiot and probaly wasn't raised in Manua. The Manua history will not be alter by anyone to elevate their own status. "E ufiufi lava le tamaimoa ae ioio mai lava". Even a fetus knows the true history of Manua and the village of Tau and it's true "Alii". There are only two Paramount chiefs and that is Lefiti and Sotoa. So where does those three fit in the picture? Tell your daddy to stop telling you nonsense. "E tu'utu'u taliga tala a Manua e le tusia". I guess your father had forgotten to tell you that little info. Anyway, you can tell your story because it's not a true "Manua" story. Ask any true Manua and he will tell you the true history of the majestic island. Lefiti is a true son of Tuimanu'a Salofi. But it's obvious you didn't know that.

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4/15/2002

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12:44:38 AM

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5/5/2002

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4:02:22 AM

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I would like to support the 2nd person who reply regarding the son's of Tui Manu'a Salofi. Lefiti is the true blood son of Tui Manu'a Salofi (believe me, I know). You must not be a Manu'a for writing such a story. Like the saying goes "Think before you speak", get your facts straight. Funny how during all this time Ta'u was preparing for the flag day festivities that I never heard these name mentioned Moliga, Leasau & Nua as a respectable high name to be consider in any decision making. But I got to admit that your father has an imagination for fairy tale story. If you disagree with me, please reply. I would like to meet you. Maybe your identity should be acknowledge (if you have the guts)in the event that you may not be a Ta'u, I don't want to waste any of my precious time.I know all the people from Ta'u. Even the unborn child. Well, you have a nice day. Send my regards to your family. Love you.

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5/9/2002

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3:47:58 PM

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In regards to the responses to the Lefiti story, rather than being so rude on the net and claiming that the stories are false. Why don't you shed some light or tell us the real story if you are such a true Manukan. Fa'afetai.

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5/10/2002

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6:48:57 PM

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I don't think I'm being that rude in here. I'm just trying to divide the facts from fiction. Like I said before, I know the history of my people and quite frankly, it's not for the whole world to view. But since they wrote such a bogus story for your enjoyment; I'll share just a glimpse of the true story on those who call themselves..."FIA-Chief's". I hope you can handle the Truth.
Lefiti title was from his father the late King Tuimanua Salofi. He is the son of the King himself and the daughter of the Tuifiti(king of Fijian Island). When he brought him home he name him Lefiti " NOT a Fijian Child". To put it in lamen terms LE(not) and Fiti(Fiji). That is as clear as it could be. "E ufiufi lava le tamaimoa ae ioio mai lava."
Leasau got his title from annoucing the arrival of the Kings son(Lefiti). Leasau(Means "O le a sau"). Moliga means to take someone or delivering someone. Leasau like Moliga were Tuimanua servents during Lefiti journey to his village now known as Siufaga. The village that was given to him by his late Father King Tuimamanua Salofi. Nua is questionable in the story. The fill-in story goes something like this...When Lefiti arrived at "Ogea" which is his Malae, a rainbow(Nuanua) was seen and this is where the title derived from. The king left behind his servant(Leasau,Moliga, and Nua(?) to serve his son(Lefiti). As years passed Lefiti felt that Tuimanua servants have outdone themselve so he appointed them as protectors and sitting council (puapua alii) of his Village when he's not around. The true Nua title came from a chief name Pese. When Pese was on his way back to the house from a fishing trip, he saw an unknown man sleeping on the beach infront of his house. He did not have a name and during the same time Pese saw a rainbow. So Pese named the man, Nuanua. So in reality Nua used to served Pese in the begining of time. So I hope you enjoy that little taste of our history. Faafetai tele lava.

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5/13/2002

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1:39:41 PM

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That's right brother! Preach the truth and the truth will set the Manukan Freeeeeeeeeee...... I myself have heard similar stories from my daddadaadaa.... You can't hide the truth from the people that was raised and grew at the rock... "E le valea foi gei fagau".

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5/13/2002

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7:27:04 PM

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HI,JUST PASSING THRU AND NOTICED THE DEBATE IN HERE REGARDING THE MANU'A LEGEND...... IS THERE ANY SUPPORT TO THESE THEORIES? I HAVE HEARD OF THE FIRST STORY... IS THERE NO WRITTEN RECORD OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED EVERYONE WILL CLAIM THEIR STORY IS RIGHT ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HEAR FROM THEIR FAMILIES.....

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5/13/2002

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9:20:20 PM

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In regards to our recent post. I was wondering if it would matter? To have written documentation of this dispute. Is not history a written form of oral history? Has not the biased perspective of the author of many history books been made explicit? I wonder what would it prove if these stories were documented on paper? If you are dieing for the truth...consider this. What positions do the "three son's" of Tuimanu'a have, at present? Is there status equal to that of Lefiti? If not, why is that? Could they have done something to Tuimanu'a to lose his favor? Or could there actually be a posibility that what they say of Lefiti, he being the real son of Tuimanu'a, be true? Look at what the present day facts support. Besides, don't use Western ideals of written documentation as a means of justifying Samoan culture. It just doesn't fit. Use Samoan means to authenticate Samoan truths.

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5/13/2002

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9:21:32 PM

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In regards to our recent post. I was wondering if it would matter? To have written documentation of this dispute. Is not history a written form of oral history? Has not the biased perspective of the author of many history books been made explicit? I wonder what would it prove if these stories were documented on paper? If you are dieing for the truth...consider this. What positions do the "three son's" of Tuimanu'a have, at present? Is their status equal to that of Lefiti? If not, why is that? Could they have done something to Tuimanu'a to lose his favor? Or could there actually be a posibility that what they say of Lefiti, he being the real son of Tuimanu'a, be true? Look at what the present day facts support. Besides, don't use Western ideals of written documentation as a means of justifying Samoan culture. It just doesn't fit. Use Samoan means to authenticate Samoan truths.

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5/14/2002

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2:56:15 PM

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I DONT KNOW, BUT THE THEORY THAT THE PERSON TELLS ON 5.10.02 DOESNT SEEM SOUND RIGHT, IT SEEMS THAT EVERYONE TELLS THE STORY THAT THEY LIKE TO HEAR.... MAYBE THE HISTORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD THE WAY IT REALLY HAPPENED BY ONE OF THE ELDERS OF THE ISLAND THERE SEEMS TO BE ALOT OF INFORMATION MISSING. I'VE HEARD THE LEGEND AND THERE IS A REASON WHY THE RESPECT IS GIVEN TO LEFITI..... BUT I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU.. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR OPINION ..... BUT WE MUST BE CAREFUL OF WHAT WE SAY.....THERE WILL BE A TIME AND A PLACE WHEN THIS WILL BE STRAIGHTEND OUT....

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5/14/2002

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2:57:40 PM

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I DONT KNOW, BUT THE THEORY THAT THE PERSON TELLS ON 5.10.02 DOESNT SEEM TO SOUND RIGHT, IT SEEMS THAT EVERYONE TELLS THE STORY THAT THEY LIKE TO HEAR.... MAYBE THE HISTORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD THE WAY IT REALLY HAPPENED BY ONE OF THE ELDERS OF THE ISLAND THERE SEEMS TO BE ALOT OF INFORMATION MISSING. I'VE HEARD THE LEGEND AND THERE IS A REASON WHY THE RESPECT IS GIVEN TO LEFITI..... BUT I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU.. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR OPINION ..... BUT WE MUST BE CAREFUL OF WHAT WE SAY.....THERE WILL BE A TIME AND A PLACE WHEN THIS WILL BE STRAIGHTEND OUT....

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5/15/2002

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12:36:19 AM

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Well, let's hear your version of why Lefiti is given respects. Maybe those who seem to be an expert at the subject can enlighten us as to whether what you were told is true. But let me just suggest this. Would it satisfy you to hear an elder tell you that what the person wrote in December is not true? Because if that is so, then there are a few people that I can suggest that you ask.

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5/15/2002

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2:45:23 AM

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hmmmm...sounds like a threat...now that the Lefiti title has no holder...will those who had caused the last one problems come out of their shells? hhhhmmmm

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5/15/2002

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10:46:10 AM

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YOU SEEM QUITE UPSET AT THE OPINIONS THAT ARE POSTED. LIKE I SAID, IM NOT IN HERE TO ARGUE, BUT WHAT IF I WAS INTRESTED IN HEARING FROM AN ELDER? WHO CAN IT BE???

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5/15/2002

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2:22:20 PM

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umm, hi, im another who heard of the Manu'a legend..... and the first story is true.... but like the other one said the is more to it... if you need to hear from the elders... it needs to be from someone who knows the history-not just any elder,for all we know it could be a realitive lefiti ......

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5/16/2002

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12:00:04 PM

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That's nice to know that generation-x are intereting in the history. Let me give you my 2Cent on the issue. Lefiti is the paramount chief of Suifaga or the "Faatui". With that said, the other I don't know who they are and where they came from... Maybe the other dude was right. They are servants of the Tuimanua.

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5/16/2002

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1:05:42 PM

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maybe everyone in here needs to get their stories straight.....

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5/16/2002

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1:11:16 PM

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idont know about that... i may not be from the island of manu'a, and i am not generation-x (?),but the history needs to be straight because of the fact that some like to twist it around to make their family seem higher than others. at least that's what i am getting from the others who sostrongly seem to be upset......curious reader

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5/16/2002

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3:29:42 PM

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Let's all get something straight here...we've heard two versions of the story now. If we are as intelligent as I assume we all are, it shoul not be difficult to calculate who's story was true. The first story claims that the three sons were sons of Tuimanu'a...well I can name a whole bunch of families who are descended from the Tuimanu'a line, that still doesn't prove diddly. The second story does have some weight seeing as how it may be plausible for this individual to actually have been the sone of Tuimanu'a, seeing as how he does have the "Fa'atui" honors bestowed upon him, and was granted the authority to rule over Siufaga as his own. The only other individual I hear having any significant power in Ta'u is the Vaimagalo Sotoa. Now, try to make the connections here, if what the first story professes is true, why then do they not have the same if not higher status the Lefiti and Sotoa? These honors have been preordained since the first title holders and have not changed, so why haven't the "three sons" have the same honors bestowed upon them? Sounds a bit fishy if you ask me

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5/16/2002

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5:58:25 PM

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It seems to be a good debate issue whether Lefiti is in fact a son (true blood) of Tuimanu'a. Well, I've read the two versions & the replys. Manu'a will always try to disagree who is the king family, or who has power or shall I say kingdom power on who's who's & etc.
It is so sad that every generation may have there own version. I agree with having the facts. I also find that no matter what version is right, every family will have there version to fit there status quo as "Aiga Tupu".
I am a true Manu'a residing off-island. But it doesn't mean I don't know my roots & history. Like everyone, I too heard the second version from my ancestors and pulls alot of weight towards having some truth.
My question is, if Moliga, Leasau & Nuanua pass away will they be "fata" to their quest house? It's down in history why this particular ceromony takes place "fata". I rest my case.
At this time I would like to apologize to anyone & everyone if I may have been rude. I don't think we want to sound rude. Like I said this is a good debate. As for the old folkie.....there's plenty of them left in Manu'a from each family to tell there version. Would be very interesting.
May God Bless All of you & you all have a nice day.

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5/16/2002

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6:57:53 PM

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What is the meaning of all this? And what are going trying to gain from this? Is it money? Prestige? or for the hell of it?
I have a hypothetical question, if God would call upon Moliga, Nua, or Leasau (God willingly nothing of that nature happens) would they be "fata"? It is down in history why this kind of ceremony takes place & to whom.
I think all of this is all out of jealousy. If my memory serves me right, my ancestors once said.... "ole ato faitala, ato loto leaga ma le ato fa'aleaga tagata na masa'a i Man'ua".
With all the problems in Tutuila, why would you folks want to destroy our beautiful paradise of Manu'a in such controversy & b.s. Let Tutuila do the all the criticism of titles & land.
To end my piece, I want to apologize if I may offended anyone or was rude. I know we don't mean to sound that way, but when you are debating you will come across these kind of attitude just to make a point.
To everyone in Manu'a, God Bless You All my family and have a nice day.

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5/16/2002

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8:13:32 PM

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Has it cross anyone's mind that maybe a family member of these families have come into this site, and have read the entries and are like laughing their asses off? I am not from Manu'a but it seems to me that there are a couple of people out there trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill (thier familial status in particular)! After reading the dialogues I feel like there is an established "Aiga Tupu" that everyone is talking about, with several wanna be's trying to rewrite history.

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5/16/2002

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8:13:44 PM

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Has it cross anyone's mind that maybe a family member of these families have come into this site, and have read the entries and are like laughing their asses off? I am not from Manu'a but it seems to me that there are a couple of people out there trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill (thier familial status in particular)! After reading the dialogues I feel like there is an established "Aiga Tupu" that everyone is talking about, with several wanna be's trying to rewrite history.

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5/17/2002

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2:56:00 PM

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Hello there, I found this website by accident and it's a very nice one. My am from one of the families that everyone in here is debating about. It's very interesting to know that so many are intrested in our history.... I live here in the States and just reading these .... I am now very much intrested in researching my family tree.Thank you all so much .......

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5/17/2002

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8:57:48 PM

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The truth of the matter is, our whole culture is change because of the western world influenced. Regardless of how we look at it the culture, is change. With all the influence comes the changes in how we do business. Just look at our family today and who's holding the big title. If you don't have the green your pretty much out of the picture. Even Manua is affect by the this. The more money you show the small Matai the better sitting your get in the council. Money has make and brake names, but as long as there is one surviving soul in Manua the truth will always prevail.

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5/17/2002

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11:08:36 PM

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okay...so who do you think has the money? Last time I checked everyone of these matai that are being mentioned are well to do. So wassup?

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5/18/2002

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Hey-hey-hey!...Heard there was an interesting debate going on here and I just thought I'd see what the issue is.
I never new about this website, so I will have to take some time later on to appreciate what it has to offer.
This is all real nice and interesting to read, share, and talk about but I thought this was suppose to be a section of "Samoan Myths & Legends"?
Debates are always great, and communication is always good, but lets not get personal and offensive. Let us remember the semantics here and I'll put it simply: myth - a story or belief that attempts to express or explain a basic truth. legend - a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition and popularly accepted as historical. history - is the branch of knowledge dealing with past events, a narrative, written or oral, relating to a particular people, country, period, person etc.
This is to all the beautiful people of Samoa, and especially the Lefiti and Sotoa families. We as Samoans have a beautiful heritage and culture that we can be proud of. In addition to that we have a proud history and lineage also. Like other Samoan families, these families know their history and lineage and I'm sure they are very proud of it. Let us not confuse myths and legends with historical facts. Let us as good and decent people respect their right to privacy and perhaps our Samoan people will someday have a historical document in which the truth will prevail.
To the individual of 12/18/2001, if you are not from the Lefiti or Sotoa family, naturally you will not know their respective family histories. You should focus your certainties on knowing where you are from and what your family history may be. And let us hope your family history is not based on, as you put it "one legend by oratory" that was handed down to you.
In summation, I have often heard it said in Samoan, "E iloa lava le tamalii i ona uiga...e iloa fo'i e Samoa ona Aiga Tupu ma Tamalii". I was told that this statement makes reference to the fact that those of high ancestral descent do not need to go around boasting of who they are or where they're from, in our Samoan culture the "faalupega" has ensured us of the order of protocol. So having said all this...Let us keep this a section of "Samoan Myths and Legends" that we can all enjoy and continue to be enriched from and let us not use this as a forum for personal attacks on any family.
MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL!!!

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5/20/2002

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1:36:47 PM

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Well I guess that's all the man wrote...kinda put the flame out in the debate, but I think that it was about time.

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5/20/2002

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1:37:07 PM

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Well I guess that's all the man wrote...kinda put the flame out in the debate, but I think that it was about time.

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5/20/2002

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6:57:50 PM

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hey,let's hear more of the samoan legends and/or myths.........

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5/21/2002

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5:00:14 PM

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Talofa lava all of you. I am the writer of the first complaint of rudeness on this site. I would like to apologized if I offended any of you. But my whole point was to encourage dialogue and communication regarding the myths and legends. Like the person on 5/21/02 stated, this is a good site to discuss and share our recollection and facts that were passed on orally or in writing by our elders. I totally agreed, that we should not alter or make-up things to make our families look better than the next one, because as long as we are Samoans, we are all related somehow. So, it's good to help each other understand what we have learned througout our lives as the younger generations in regards to the history of our families. I have grown to love the Samoan culture and respect our heritage, customs, etc. It's such a unique and awesome culture, but this can be ignored and lost with attitudes of thinking you are ranked higher, smarter, etc. than your next Samoan brother or sister. Therefore, let's be professional in dealing with this site. Ia manuia lava le aso.

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5/21/2002

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5:00:28 PM

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Talofa lava all of you. I am the writer of the first complaint of rudeness on this site. I would like to apologized if I offended any of you. But my whole point was to encourage dialogue and communication regarding the myths and legends. Like the person on 5/21/02 stated, this is a good site to discuss and share our recollection and facts that were passed on orally or in writing by our elders. I totally agreed, that we should not alter or make-up things to make our families look better than the next one, because as long as we are Samoans, we are all related somehow. So, it's good to help each other understand what we have learned througout our lives as the younger generations in regards to the history of our families. I have grown to love the Samoan culture and respect our heritage, customs, etc. It's such a unique and awesome culture, but this can be ignored and lost with attitudes of thinking you are ranked higher, smarter, etc. than your next Samoan brother or sister. Therefore, let's be professional in dealing with this site. Ia manuia lava le aso.

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5/21/2002

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6:40:01 PM

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5/21/2002

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Why is Lefiti and Sotoa fa'alupega are no longer mentioned in the Manua fa'alupega now a days? What fa'alupega of Ta'u do you know? Who will be the next Lefiti title holder?

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5/21/2002

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7:15:31 PM

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In regards to the 2 names Leasau and Moliga, it's true that it derived from the saying "O le a sau le momoliga sa o le Tuimanu'a. As far as using the word 'servant" it doesn't fit the responsibilities bestowed upon Leasau and Moliga because they are not slaves. Although they are there to be of assistance and promotes the interests of Tuimanu'a. In other words, they "tautua" the honorable Tuimanu'a but not his slaves. While on their way with the momoli, they came across a rainbow and got the name "Nuanua o le feagaiga". That's my understanding of this story. Again, Lefiti and Sotoa are the paramount chiefs and Leasau, Moliga, Nua, are the "pupu ali'i" and the supporters of Tuimanu'a. Talk to you guys later.

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5/22/2002

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Hello Samoa,
It's good to see the communication is still flowing, but these are not mythical or legendary people you folks are talking about. These are real families and your insistence on discussing these families is debasing and demeaning.
Perhaps, the creator of this website should make a section on Samoan History whereby members of a family can submit verified data regarding their own personal family history that they choose to share with the community at large. That would be a great section to share the origin and meaning of names, titles, properties, places, etc. I must admit, some of our Samoan names and their significant meanings can be real awesome and worthwhile sharing, but it should be done so by the originators or respective families themselves.
If you're interested in faalupega's...check out the faalupega section or talk to the village elders or councils. If you're interested in who the next title-holders are...by all means talk to the families directly or try The Almighty Himself. Afterall, the Samoans do say "e mai Le Atua se tofi" ..."e tatou te talatalanoa ai nei ae ua uma ona tofia e Le Atua". Discrediting families is NOT the basis of real Samoan Pride.
Do you folks catch my drift?...Lets get off the Gossip-Trail and stick with myths and legends here alright?!?!
MUCH LOVE TO ALL OUR SAMOAN PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!!!!

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5/22/2002

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First of all, this is a discussion on the legacy of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Second, in order to separate the facts from the gossip-trail, enlighten our discussion with facts of such an important person in the Manu'a history. Thirdly, I think you are the person that started the name calling and degrading of someone sharing his / her understanding of the Tuimanu'a Salofi legend. So, please let's all respond accordingly and try not to offend each other.

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5/22/2002

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Hi everyone.......I heard about the discussion of the "Lefiti" on this website & decided to check it out.
Wow, there is only 4 other stories/legend plus the "Lefiti" one which has many respond to it. I am a relative of the Lefiti clan & it's interesting that our family name is a hot topic & everyone & anyone wants to discuss it.
Frankly, I'm not offended in anyway, I know my family history, so no one can change it or make rude remarks to offend myself. As for the rest of my family......I don't think they really care what other people say on the who's who.....we know who we are and our family lineage & are proud of it, and for the rest of the world that wants to know, well good luck.
I'm just glad that if it wasn't for our family history it would of remained only 4 stories/legend. But it has filled up alot in this section.
For my family who are now aware of this site, thanks you for not taking any part in this, but I'm sorry to respond. I know we agreed for no one to respond but, I just had to let some of the readers know that we are aware & there's no problem.
To everyone & anyone, May God Bless You All. We love you no matter what.

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5/22/2002

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Hi everyone.......I heard about the discussion of the "Lefiti" on this website & decided to check it out.
Wow, there is only 4 other stories/legend plus the "Lefiti" one which has many respond to it. I am a relative of the Lefiti clan & it's interesting that our family name is a hot topic & everyone & anyone wants to discuss it.
Frankly, I'm not offended in anyway, I know my family history, so no one can change it or make rude remarks to offend myself. As for the rest of my family......I don't think they really care what other people say on the who's who.....we know who we are and our family lineage & are proud of it, and for the rest of the world that wants to know, well good luck.
I'm just glad that if it wasn't for our family history it would of remained only 4 stories/legend. But it has filled up alot in this section.
For my family who are now aware of this site, thanks you for not taking any part in this, but I'm sorry to respond. I know we agreed for no one to respond but, I just had to let some of the readers know that we are aware & there's no problem.
To everyone & anyone, May God Bless You All. We love you no matter what.

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5/23/2002

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To: User 5/22/2002 of 4:25:02am
The legacy of Tuimanu'a Salofi is a personal gift bequested to HIS FAMILY - NOT a legend or myth open for discussion. Unless you are a descendant of his, there is nothing to discuss here. If you are a direct descendant then exemplify yourself in the manner becoming of nobility. Some things are very sacred to the people of Manu'a and for good reason I may add.
If you want to understand the Tuimanu'a History / Lineage then do your research, verify your sources of information, and document it respectfully. This is not the proper place or forum for discussing people of such importance.
Like I stated earlier, generating discussion for the purpose of discrediting families and their respective histories merely portrays yourself as an individual lacking respect...a quality of utmost importance to our Samoan Culture. If you feel insulted...hey, I didn't call you any names, you insulted and degraded yourself with your own behavior.
There are many "legends" pertaining to the Tuimanu'a Kingship that I'm sure others would enjoy sharing. Let's discuss some of them and others as well.
WITH THE UTMOST OF RESPECT AND LOVE TO YOU ALL!!!...TOFA.

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5/23/2002

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hey peeps in the web, i dont know the big deal about the myths and legends (and the big fuss.) the truth is...true, samoa was found on those two things (myths and legends) but then, samoa found GOD...ruler of all. its cool that you want to know the truth and all but, the ghosts of the past wont do you any good. i dont agree with the "props" being given the so-called "aitu" of the past when there is a living God that judges all from the past til now. my advice to you my fellow country-men and women, let the past be the past and stay focus on the motto of both samoas til now, which is...Western Samoa: "fa'avae i le Atua Samoa" and Tutuila: "Samoa mo le Atua". ia soia loa le tou "argue" i na mea tuai e le ola ai se isi ae toaga e tatlo ma faitau legends mai le tusi paia. May the Lord richly bless all you out there and keep you under His care...... love, 007

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5/24/2002

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Fa'afetai 007...I understand your situation, and far be it from me to criticize someone who champions our heavenly Father, but it's your type of attitude that turns people off from Him. A true believer and lover of the Lord would try to follow His ways as much as possible, and being close minded and tunnel visioned is not going to win converters. Acknowledge our heritage because it is the Lord's creation.

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5/29/2002

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Hey anyone know the legend of Fatu ma Futi?

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6/3/2002

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Can we talk about somthing else? How about Sina and the Eel? Or Big Foot Moso? This Tuimanu'a issue has been going on since February and they are still at each others throats but no one seems to know the answer to their own darn questions!! Ya'll bunch of idiots. Besides, we are here to post Samoan Myths and Legends, not about your family, and who is high chief and blah blah blah!! With the speed of life we are living right now, most of the timee, having a title doesn't matter!!

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6/3/2002

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Why is there a confusion on the title Lefiti and these iole known as Nua,Leasau,and Moliga.Let me start by quoting the Faalupega of Manua."Afio le laau na amotasi(Tuimanua)Faatui(Sotoa and Lefiti)ma to'oto'o ole Faleula.That is the Faalupega of Manua.The two Faatui or Paramount are in Tau,and to clear the air let me quote u the Faalipega of Tau.Afio Sotoa male suafa Lefiti,usoalii male mamalu ole Faletolu.The usoalii mention above on the Faalupega of Tau does not include iole Nua,Leasau,Moliga.Last and not least,is where Nua,Lasau,Moliga titlte come in the picture.Tau is divided in to two village council.One is Luma and Siufaga.Lefiti was appointed by his dad King Tuimanua to take over Siufaga.Before Lefiti left for Siufaga,Tuimanua had already send down his servants(Nua,Leasau,Moliga) to clean his malae, cook his food,and wipe his ass.Please dont ever write no stupid story about Nua,Leasau,and Moliga.So to make the story easy Nua,Leasau and Moliga are Lefiti ass wipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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6/4/2002

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fafafini ufa fried rice

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6/4/2002

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ufa

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6/4/2002

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american samoans are ufas

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6/4/2002

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In response to the person who wrote the above statements about american samoa.The only ufas is your dad,mom,sister your wife and your kids.Why dont u be a man and post your real name and your address so i can bust your ass.

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6/4/2002

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Today at 6:25am and 6:28am someone post a very idiotic message saying that American Samoans are "UFAs". You know what, if you don't like a certain person from the island then be a real man and confront him or her but don't abuse the internet by making your racist remarks. It just shows that you need some more education.I'm not sure if you are a Samoan, I hope not.If you are another Samoan then you know what they say back home--the only ufas are your Mom and Dad and your whole family. If you're not a Samoan I wish that you refrain from making general racist statements because you are nothing but an idiot and a UFA yourself.Furthermore, under the constitution you have a freedom of speech. However, my brother/sister you have no freedom when it comes to making racial remarks because that will be Discrimination.Therefore,freedom of speech and freedom of expression are few of your so called "constitutional rights". But don't abuse it by making racist statements like "American Samoans" are ufas because all you will get is a black eye. Let me warn you my friend, that if I find out that you live close by, I will come overthere and bust your ass.People are entitle to their own opinions and express themselves any way they want, but don't make general statements and victimize the whole group of people by the actions of a few because that is very insulting.If you're not Samoan, ufa means-butthead..ok. So long. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/4/2002

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I DON'T THINK I'LL BE STOPPING BY HERE AGAIN... THE FORUM IS GETTING OUT OF HAND! I DONT THINK THAT THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE ONES MENTIONED ABOVE APPRECIATES THE NAME CALLING!!! TOFA SAMOA AND I AM SORRY THAT SOMEONE HAD TO COME IN TO RUIN THINGS.....

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6/4/2002

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As a member of the Lefiti family I neither condone nor approve of such lowly behavior as exhibited by some members of our family. If there is any lesson that a Lefiti is taught when they are young, is never to think of ourselves as better than anyone else. We already know who we are, where we came from and we don't need to justify this to anyone. Our matai who just recently passed away would be very dissappointed with us if he knew the kinds of things we were saying on this website. If there's anything that we, as members of the Lefiti family need to do is to perpetuate the lessons of humility and caring that the Lefiti family is known for. If people are going to talk, let them talk. It's not our place to discredit them. Ia outou manatua, e iloa le tamali'i i ana amioga!

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6/5/2002

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Talofa everybody. First of all we all know that God is the only KING of the heavens and the earth.The Samoan people like myself believe that. That is the only TRUTH and He is the only TUPU. However, my brother/sister, B E F O R E we knew that Heavenly Father exist, Samoan people had their own gods and kings/tupus. Now with the legacy of TUIMANU'A , he was the king of the Manu'a islands.Of what I understand is that all the " pa'ia and the mamalu fa'aleatunu'u " in Manu'a was bestowed upon him by the people of Manu'a and declared him king of the Manu'a islands. He was perhaps the first or a descendant of the first family that inhabitat the Manu'atele. I am married to a true descendant of the family and they are indeed proud of their heritage. The inhabitation of the land by the people that I'm talking about goes back to the Western civilization history.Remember that the Samoan people have their own myths of how the Samoans came to be. Like the myth with Tagaloa, how he created the 'ele'ele and papa.That is a real myth. With respect to the Lefiti title I learned that he was a TRUE son of TUIMAU'A. I have no knowledge of anything else about the title. Just remember that when their is no true blood line then the title/suafa will finally disappear.In other words,the title/suafa will continue as long as there is someone qualify and approved by the family to hold the suafa. The TUIMANU'A legacy is not a myth it's authentic history, part of the past that is carried on today by this family as a royalty tradition.We learn from the past but live for the future. You and I as Samoans should be proud of our heritage but lets not disgrace our culture by trying to discredit other peoples opinions and knowledge of the subject matter.Don't forget that you and I don't know everything because we were not there in the past. So be open minded and don't be stubborn with your own thougths. Samoa e muamua le Atua/E faavae Samoa ile Atua.God is the only KING of the heavens and the earth.Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/5/2002

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6/5/2002

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Hey what happen to my story that I just submitted a minute ago?

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6/7/2002

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WHAT ABOUT LE USO O "TUNA MA FATA"

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6/7/2002

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what about them?

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6/7/2002

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there is only one WAILENA SI'AULA SEPULONA AND SHE IS IN HAWAII SHE HAS SPECIAL POWERS SHE IS THE HEAD OF ALL THE SAMOAN IN THIS WORLD. DO NOT MESS WITH HER; OR HER ANCESTORS WILL COME FOR YOU. THIS IS A TRUE STORIE HIDDEN BY THE ELDERS OF SAMOA.

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6/7/2002

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there is only one WAILENA SI'AULA SEPULONA AND SHE IS IN HAWAII SHE HAS SPECIAL POWERS SHE IS THE HEAD OF ALL THE SAMOAN MALA'S IN THIS WORLD. DO NOT MESS WITH HER; OR HER ANCESTORS WILL COME FOR YOU. THIS IS A TRUE STORIE HIDDEN BY THE ELDERS OF SAMOA.

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6/7/2002

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Hey what's up with this Wailena Si'aula Sepulona? Is it a myth or what? If she is a living thing then don't discuss her because obviously she is not a myth.By the way, you claim that she has some special powers? She is also the head of all the Samoans in the world? How come I NEVER HEARD of her? Well let me see, if she has some special powers then she must have a gift from the creator-GOD. She needs to use that special energy in to doing something worthwhile for all living things. However my friend, if her special powers brings disaster/mala to the world especially to the Samoan people then you have no case because you are TALKING NONSENSE.. Homo sapiens are considered to be on top of the organization of living things.We as members of this species were created equal in every respect.A special power/gift given by the creator is not intended to bring mala to its own creation.Therefore, fear not for GOD the only KING is the only one that can bring mala to our lives if we are not doing HIS WILL.Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/7/2002

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Hey what's up with this Wailena Si'aula Sepulona? Is it a myth or what? If she is a living thing then don't discuss her because obviously she is not a myth.By the way, you claim that she has some special powers? She is also the head of all the Samoans in the world? How come I NEVER HEARD of her? Well let me see, if she has some special powers then she must have a gift from the creator-GOD. She needs to use that special energy in to doing something worthwhile for all living things. However my friend, if her special powers brings disaster/mala to the world especially to the Samoan people then you have no case because you are TALKING NONSENSE.. Homo sapiens are considered to be on top of the organization of living things.We as members of this species were created equal in every respect.A special power/gift given by the creator is not intended to bring mala to its own creation.Therefore, fear not for GOD the only KING is the only one that can bring mala to our lives if we are not doing HIS WILL.Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/11/2002

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OKAAAAYYYYY....what is with the wailena story ?????? head of all the samoans??????????? oh puhleeeease!!!!

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6/11/2002

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SOOOO, WHAT'S UP WITH THIS WAILENA????AND SHE IS THE HEAD OF ALL SAMOANS FOR WHAT? AND WHAT SAMOANS IS SHE HEAD OF???? BE SERIOUS!!!! THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS IN CHARGE OF ME IS THE ALMIGHT GOD!!! WAILENA?!!! YEA RITE!!! MALOLO IA LI'I HEAD OF UNKNOWN:>

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6/11/2002

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ABOUT THE TUIMANUA, LIKE WHAT 5/22 ON BOTH SIDE SAID, THIS IS A MYTH & LEGENDS LET'S LEAVE THE DEAD KING ALONE!!! I AM ONE OF THE FAMILY MEMBER, AND I READ & HEARD A TOTAL DIFFERENT VERSION, BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE, AND WHEN I SAY "WE" I MEAN ALL 3 BROTHER'S & KINS DO NOT GET ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT NOW DAYS. THE PAST IS BEST LEFT ALONE, I JUST LEFT TA'U MANU'A ABOUT A WEEK, & WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE, AND IT BOILS DOWN THAT WE SHOULD JUST LEAVE THIS SUBJECT ALONE BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING "FALETOLU" I THINK YOU WOULD HEAR THAT CERTAIN TITLES AREN'T MENTIONED. AND TO YOU 5/22 (WIPE ASS) REALLY NOW, COULDN'T YOU USE YOUR BRAINS INSTEAD OF YOUR ASS TO THINK WITH THAT THEIR ARE YOUR TEEN ADULTS WHO ARE READING THIS, SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN SOMETHING, BUT INSTEAD YOU (6/3 11:46:59 )WITH YOUR LITTLE 2 YEAR OLD BRAIN, CAN'T CONTROL YOUR ANGER BY REPHRASING YOUR WORDS. MY TEENAGE DAUGHTER & NIECES SHOWED ME THIS, AND WE KNEW IT WAS A (MATAVALEA)GROWN UP WHO SUBMITTED THAT EMAIL ON 6/3 11:46:59) GROW UP AND SHUT UP!!! LETS JUST STICK TO WHAT THE TITLE SAYS "SAMOAN MYTHS AND LEGENDS" NOT SAMOANS WHO WANNA BE KNOWN!!!!

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6/12/2002

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In response to the person who wrote about Tuimanua on 6/11/02.6:35 PM.I really dont give a dam about your stupid daughter showing u what i wrote.You probably one of them low life idiot that stay back in Tau and dont do jack.Before you called somebody stupid ,lets see what kind of education and background you got.Dont get mad because im stating the facts about your uncles Leasau,Nua an Moliga.The Faletolu existed way before Tuimanua came in play,I know this.So dont think, i dont know the history jack or should i call u stupid.

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6/12/2002

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TO: 6/12/02 12:07:07AM Ia malo lava le onosai! Aua le ita pe afai e sese famatalaga o nisi tagata ile tala'aga o Tuimanua. This is a very touchy subject, maybe you should give out your email address that way you can have a private discussion with them. It was interesting to read about Tuimanua at the beginning, but it started to get really ugly in here when you started threatening people. Its sad, because I thought we were better people, we don't have to result to fighting?! Lets talk TO EACH OTHER, NOT AT EACH OTHER. It would be nice to have this settled.

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6/12/2002

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I was just entering this site to read up on some Samoan Myths and Legends. I guess everyone decided to have a debate instead. I'm a NZ born Samoan girl who is trying to learn more about my culture, I've only been to Samoa twice in my life and it's absolute paradise to me. However, could someone post more myths and legends I find them interesting and would really like to read more.
MUCH LOVE TO MY BEATIFUL ISLAND PEOPLE!!

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6/13/2002

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To: 6/11 and 6/12 posters respectively. Please desist from draggin my families name into the dust. The individual from Manu'a, you are no better then the individual who called the "three sons" @$$@#$. I had previously written a message earlier rejecting the behavior of our family members, and frankly I had assumed the issue was over. As for discussing this misunderstanding during a fono of the faletolu, I think your time could have been used more productively then to discuss what a few angered members of these families have been saying about eachother. Let's keep FALETOLU talks to village issues, and not inappropriate bickering done on the internet. Ia tatou iloa teu le vafealoa'i fa'amolemole!

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6/14/2002

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WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE?? this should be a myth and legend forum..... pls to whoever is calling names,stop!

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6/14/2002

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Any Samoan Myths and Legends? Anyone???

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6/14/2002

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Can all you guys just shoosh you dont know anything after all because you wernet there so how you know its true even if you are a relative to Lefiti and all it still doesnt prove you know the real story so shoosh.

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6/14/2002

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Does anyone know the legend about the turtle and how it came to be?
Is it true about finding this turtle in only one place at a certain time?
Does this turtle have any significance?
Is it an Amakua(family protector) similar to the hawaiian legend?
Anyone?????

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6/15/2002

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6/15/2002

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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Let me try. Before I start I want to ask that you go buy a copy of Fofo Sunias' 2nd edition of his book called "MEASINA A SAMOA". I'm actually quoting from his book. There are actually 3 different versions of this myth. The myth is how the name S A M O A came to be. Now there is a UPOLU version,SAVAII version and of course a MANU'A version. I want to start with the Upolu version: Once upon a time there was a family that lived at Fagaloa(a place located above UAFATO in UPOLU island). The name of the family is The TAGALOAS-Aiga Sa Tagaloa. This family is like the gods of the Samoans.The head of the family is the old man named Tagaloaalagi.He had two children. The boys' name was MOA and the girls' name was LU.While the old man was resting one day he heard his children singing. The boy sings his name first and then his sisters' name second. He sings Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu. Then the girl answers by singing her name first and her brothers' name second. She sings Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa.Tagaloaalagi( the old man) was very upset and angry at his daughter for putting her name first and her brothrs name second. The old man got up and beat his daughter with his fue (Samoan whisk).He also chased her out of his house and told her not to come back. He told her that his son Moa is the alii or the king of the family.She shouldn't be putting her name before his name. The girl ran away from home and went down to the village. Everything was "sa" (taboo) for Moa. The "sa' for Moa continued on for a long time.Everyone heard about it even the tourist heard about it and they refer to the island as the place where tere is a "sa" for Moa. Then the word spreads and and it later became Sa Moa or Samoa.(How was that? I thought that was funny and interesting).That's all for now but stay tune for the Savaii version after the commercial. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/15/2002

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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Let me try. Before I start I want to ask that you go buy a copy of Fofo Sunias' 2nd edition of his book called "MEASINA A SAMOA". I'm actually quoting from his book. There are actually 3 different versions of this myth. The myth is how the name S A M O A came to be. Now there is a UPOLU version,SAVAII version and of course a MANU'A version. I want to start with the Upolu version: Once upon a time there was a family that lived at Fagaloa(a place located above UAFATO in UPOLU island). The name of the family is The TAGALOAS-Aiga Sa Tagaloa. This family is like the gods of the Samoans.The head of the family is the old man named Tagaloaalagi.He had two children. The boys' name was MOA and the girls' name was LU.While the old man was resting one day he heard his children singing. The boy sings his name first and then his sisters' name second. He sings Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu. Then the girl answers by singing her name first and her brothers' name second. She sings Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa.Tagaloaalagi( the old man) was very upset and angry at his daughter for putting her name first and her brothrs name second. The old man got up and beat his daughter with his fue (Samoan whisk).He also chased her out of his house and told her not to come back. He told her that his son Moa is the alii or the king of the family.She shouldn't be putting her name before his name. The girl ran away from home and went down to the village. Everything was "sa" (taboo) for Moa. The "sa' for Moa continued on for a long time.Everyone heard about it even the tourist heard about it and they refer to the island as the place where tere is a "sa" for Moa. Then the word spreads and and it later became Sa Moa or Samoa.(How was that? I thought that was funny and interesting).That's all for now but stay tune for the Savaii version after the commercial. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/15/2002

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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Let me try. Before I start I want to ask that you go buy a copy of Fofo Sunias' 2nd edition of his book called "MEASINA A SAMOA". I'm actually quoting from his book. There are actually 3 different versions of this myth. The myth is how the name S A M O A came to be. Now there is a UPOLU version,SAVAII version and of course a MANU'A version. I want to start with the Upolu version: Once upon a time there was a family that lived at Fagaloa(a place located above UAFATO in UPOLU island). The name of the family is The TAGALOAS-Aiga Sa Tagaloa. This family is like the gods of the Samoans.The head of the family is the old man named Tagaloaalagi.He had two children. The boys' name was MOA and the girls' name was LU.While the old man was resting one day he heard his children singing. The boy sings his name first and then his sisters' name second. He sings Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu. Then the girl answers by singing her name first and her brothers' name second. She sings Lu Moa Lu Moa Lu Moa.Tagaloaalagi( the old man) was very upset and angry at his daughter for putting her name first and her brothrs name second. The old man got up and beat his daughter with his fue (Samoan whisk).He also chased her out of his house and told her not to come back. He told her that his son Moa is the alii or the king of the family.She shouldn't be putting her name before his name. The girl ran away from home and went down to the village. Everything was "sa" (taboo) for Moa. The "sa' for Moa continued on for a long time.Everyone heard about it even the tourist heard about it and they refer to the island as the place where tere is a "sa" for Moa. Then the word spreads and and it later became Sa Moa or Samoa.(How was that? I thought that was funny and interesting).That's all for now but stay tune for the Savaii version after the commercial. Hasta la vista amigo.

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6/17/2002

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Talofa & Happy Fathers Day to you all!!! O Le Tala Ia Lelei ma Leaga...I aso anamua sa mau ai i se tasi a'ai se uso e to'a lua. O igoa o lea uso o Lelei ma Leaga. O lala masani o le fai fa'ato'aga. Ina ua matua le tama o Lelei sa fai lea lona to'alua, ma ua nofo'ese i le aiga o lana ava. A o Leaga sa faia pea lana fa'ato'aga.
Sa puapuagatia lava le tama o Leaga i lona ma'umaga i le gaoia e tagata. Sa manatu loa le tama e ao ona fai o se toagafiti ina ia iloa ai po o ai lava le fa'aleagaina lona ma'umaga. Ona ia talosaga atu lea ia Tagaloalagi e fesosoani mai. Ona tu'u mai lea e le atua se tupua ia Leaga. O le tupua o le Lulu. Ona aumaia lea e ia le Lulu ma ua fa'atuina i le aoa sa tu i le ma'umaga, e va'ava'aia po o ai lava le amio leaga.
Ona sau lea o lelei; ua va'ava'ai atu i le tupua, ona ia fa'apea ai lea, "O lo'o mamalu le atua i le aoa." Ua mavae sina itula, ona te'a lea o lona fefe ma ua gaoi lava le ma'umaga. Ua tutu lava le Lulu, e le gaoioi. u asiasi e Leaga, ua gaoia fo'i lona ma'umaga. Ona toe alu fo'i lea o Leaga ma ua aumai le isi manu. O le tuli lea, ma fa'atu i luga ole aoa. Ua toe sau fo'i le tama o Lelei ma gaoi le ma'umaga, a e tutu le tuli. Ona toe asiasi mai lea o Leaga ua gaoia lana talo, a e tutu lava le tuli, e le gaoioi.
Ona manatua lea e Leaga le tasi togafiti. Ua ia tatui tuaniu i totonu o talo. Ua o'o ina toe gaoia o le maumaga, ona alu ai lea o Leaga i le aiga e Lelei. Ua tau atu a o fai le suavai a le aiga. Ona fa'apea atu lea o Lelei ia te ia, "Sau ia, ina 'ai i la matou mea ua uma ona saunia." Ona alu atu lea o Leaga ma ua 'ai. E tago atu Leaga ma totofi le talo; o i ai le tuaniu i totonu o le talo. Ona fai atu lea o Leaga, "Se, sole Lelei, o oe lava lena e so'ona gaoia pea lo'u ma'umaga." Ona ma ai lea o Lelei, i le ua fa'apea atu. "Lo'u uso e Leaga, sau ia, aua e te ita. E amata mai nei o le a muamua pea lou igoa i a taua mea uma, e ta'u ai taua,."
O le mea lea e ala ai ona muamua Leaga ia lelei. E fa'apea se upu a se tagata ie se faiga'ai, "E leaga, e Lelei tele le faiga'ai" po o le upu fo'i fa'apea, "E Leaga, e le Lelei."

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6/17/2002

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MAFUAAGA OLE IGOA SAMOA;NA MAFUA MAI ILE SETETE O NEW YORK,AMERIKA.SA IAI SE UGALII E SUAFA IA SA MA MOA NA NONOFO I QUEENS, NEW YORK.NA LA FANAU SE FA'AFINE MA FAAIGOA IA SAMOA.INA UA LAVELAVEA LE UGALII ONA UA UMA FOOD STAMP MA WELFARE ALE MALO ONA FA'AAOGA SESE SA LATOU A'AU LOA I SAMOA MA FAAIGOA AI SAMOA O SAMOA.IA MANUIA LAVA LE ASO MA ONA LAASAGA ESESEE

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6/17/2002

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Ia Malo lava Li'i New York!!!

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6/17/2002

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O sina fautuaga mo oe 6/17,1:19; fa'aaoga sa'o le gagana Samoa pe afai o oe ose Samoa moni. Pei ole upu ugalii,ole sa'oga ole upu ole ulugalii.O le isi fo'i upu ole fa'afine,ole sa'oga ole upu ole afafine.

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6/23/2002

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6/27/2002

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I have no myth nor a legend...I would like to compliment those who actually attempted to share their versions of the story....Most Samoans where Im from do not know the difference between Upolu from Savaii...I FEEL THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON..DONT YOU..
But to get to the point...Samoa is and will always be Samoa...We nor anyone else can change past events..We can only work together as ONE people to glorify THE CULTURE, and THE TRADITIONS, Let's not dwell on an issue(TUIMANUA) that on one but GOD holds the answer..FINDING THE ANSWER TO SUCH A COMPLICATED ISSUE SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE FAMILIES THEMSELVES..

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6/30/2002

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If what u said is true, Lefiti n Sotoa were sons of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Then answer this, Where were they when Malietoa came to Manu'a to claim his Tulafales in the 70s. Who stood up againt Malietoa. Without those people u called iole you'll have no pride to be manukan. You'll full of ashame to be Manukan. If Tuimanu'a Salofi is alive,he would kick Lefiti n Sotoa out of Manu'a.

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6/30/2002

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If what u said is true, Lefiti n Sotoa were sons of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Then answer this, Where were they when Malietoa came to Manu'a to claim his Tulafales in the 70s. Who stood up againt Malietoa. Without those people u called iole you'll have no pride to be manukan. You'll full of ashame to be Manukan. If Tuimanu'a Salofi is alive,he would kick Lefiti n Sotoa out of Manu'a. Don't be mad be glad

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6/30/2002

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If what u said is true, Lefiti n Sotoa were sons of Tuimanu'a Salofi. Then answer this, Where were they when Malietoa came to Manu'a to claim his Tulafales in the 70s. Who stood up againt Malietoa. Without those people u called iole you'll have no pride to be manukan. You'll full of ashame to be Manukan. If Tuimanu'a Salofi is alive,he would kick Lefiti n Sotoa out of Manu'a. Don't be mad be glad

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7/1/2002

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In response to 6/30/2002 11:49:22.First of all Malietoa didnt come to claim his Tulafale.He came to plant a coconut tree in Malatele.U know howI know this?Because he was staying at my Grandpa house,Ale's residence.Have u heard the saying "o tala o Manu'a e tu'u taliga mt tu'u tauau".Please dont let other people know our history.Thats why Manu'a is unique.Ia manuia ma ia soifua.

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7/1/2002

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If Lefiti n Sotoa were true sons of Salofi, then Where were they at when Malietoa came to manu'a in '70s to claim his tulafales? Do u know the story? The so called ioles stood up against Malietoa to defended your pride to be Manukan. The true sons of Tuimanu'a stays in Manu'a and tautua le nu'u. Tuimanu'a left long time ago and his last words " Ia outou fealofani" Those words are written on Tuimanu'a tomb in Luma,Tau Manu'a. Soifua

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7/1/2002

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In response to 6/30/2002 11:49:22.First of all Malietoa didnt come to claim his Tulafale.He came to plant a coconut tree in Malatele.U know howI know this?Because he was staying at my Grandpa house,Ale's residence.Have u heard the saying "o tala o Manu'a e tu'u taliga mt tu'u tauau".Please dont let other people know our history.Thats why Manu'a is unique.Ia manuia ma ia soifua.

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7/1/2002

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7/1/2002

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If Lefiti n Sotoa were true sons of Salofi, then Where were they at when Malietoa came to manu'a in '70s to claim his tulafales? Do u know the story? The so called ioles stood up against Malietoa to defended your pride to be Manukan. The true sons of Tuimanu'a stays in Manu'a and tautua le nu'u. Tuimanu'a left long time ago and his last words " Ia outou fealofani" Those words are written on Tuimanu'a tomb in Luma,Tau Manu'a. Soifua

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7/1/2002

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If Lefiti n Sotoa were true sons of Salofi, then Where were they at when Malietoa came to manu'a in '70s to claim his tulafales? Do u know the story? The so called ioles stood up against Malietoa to defended your pride to be Manukan. The true sons of Tuimanu'a stays in Manu'a and tautua le nu'u. Tuimanu'a left long time ago and his last words " Ia outou fealofani" Those words are written on Tuimanu'a tomb in Luma,Tau Manu'a. Soifua

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7/1/2002

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In response to 7-1-2002.12;08,please dont post any more message about Lefiti and Sotoa or any Usoal'ii from Tau.All you're doing is putting our buisness on the streets.Let me remind you this forum is for Myths and Legends not for somebody to degrade other Human beings.So,next time u get on your computer please say something productive.

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7/2/2002

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O ai ia tagata? O fea outou te o mai ai? Afai o outou ni aiga ali'i, fa'apefea ona outou amio fa'apea? Fa'apefea ona outou le fa'aaloalo? E le'i atoa se tausaga talu na maliu le ali'i o Lefiti ae ua amata ona fai outou tala! Ta'ino'inoe, le amanaia, le fa'aaloalo. Ae o ni tagata tuafanua fia ali'i!

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7/2/2002

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Sina was the daughter of a couple, both apparently called Pai, dwelling at Mata-faga-tele. One day Sina found a young eel, which she kept and reared in a coconut shell. The eel grew, so that the coconut shell grew too small, and she changed it for a kava-bowl. The bowl growing too small, she kept the eel in a spring at Maata'a. It filled this spring, so she kept it in a bigger, and a bigger, and yet a bigger spring. At the side of the last spring grew a beautiful tree, the fruit of which was called pua. Sina picked the fruit and threw it into the water, and herself entered the spring, swimming and gathering the fruit together. While she was so doing the eel struck her and pierced her with its tail. Sina was angry, and in displeasure went to Savai'i; but the eel left the water and followed her; and through all the land, where Sina went, there too went the eel. It followed to Upolu, coming there as the sun was sinking in the west. Its shadow was cast eastward, and the district that lay under the shadow was called Laloata.
The people of Fuata, as the whole of the district was called, determined to kill the eel. Poisonous leaves of the lalago-tree were gathered, bruised, and mixed with water in a bowl. When the eel saw that his death was meditated he called Sina, and said to her, " I know that poisoned drink will be brought to me. Therefore, O Sina, if you love me you will, on my death, claim my head as your share. Bury it by a Tonga stone wall, and from it a coconut palm will grow for you. O Sina, you will have leaves for the plaiting of mats and fans with which to ensnare the monsoon and show your love for me. Thereupon the eel drank the prepared drink and died. Of Sina, since she had been pierced by the eel, this song was sung:
Maiden Sina, daughter of Pai, Thou hast plucked the pua-fruit and flung it in the water. Swimming thou hast gathered it, And by the tail of the eel hast been shamed.

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7/3/2002

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Sina, The Eel and The Coconut (Variation)
The mother of Sina went down to the sea to draw salt water for cooking purposes. A small sea-eel adhered to her coconut-shell water bottle, and she took it home as a plaything for her daughter Sina. She fed it, keeping it in a cup; but the eel grew, and they dug a pond for it. One day Pai and his wife returned from some plantation work, and found Sina crying, as the eel had bitten her. Fearing it must have become the incarnation of some cruel deity, they determined to leave that place.
Away the three went eastward; but when they looked round, there was the eel, out of the water and following after them. " You make your escape," said the father to his wife and Sina; " I will remain here and raise mountains to keep it back." Sina and her mother went on, but when they looked over their shoulder, there was the eel again, still following after them. Then the mother said to her daughter, " You make your escape alone; I will remain here and raise mountains in the way of the creature." Sina went on alone, but the eel followed just as before. As she passed through the villages the people called her in to rest and have a little food; and she agreed to do so provided that they would try to deliver her from the pursuing eel. When they heard that, and saw the creature, they said, " Oh, no; you had better pass on ; we are afraid of that thing."
She thought escape impossible, and gave it up, turning again toward her home. As she passed through one of the villages east of Apia the people called the attention of the chief to the young woman passing, followed by an eel. He told them to call her in to have something to drink. She said she would gladly do so if they would only get rid of the eel. " Yes, come in; we can do that," the chief called to her. She went into the house ; the eel remained outside. The chief gave orders for the preparation of a cup of 'ava (kava) for the strangers, and quietly whispered to the young men to bring from the bush all the poisonous things they could find to mix with the drink. Soon the 'ava was declared ready to hand round.
"Give the first cup to the stranger outside," said the chief to the young men; and out went one of them with the cup for the eel, which drank it eagerly But immediately the creature called to Sina to come outside; and when she went out it said to her, " Since I am dying, let us part in peace. When you hear that they have cooked me, ask the head as your share. Take it and bury it near the stone wall, and it will grow up into a coconut-tree for you. In the nuts you will see my eyes and mouth, and so we shall still be able to look at each other face to face. The leaves of the tree will be a shade for you, and you will be able to plait them into mats and fans."
Saying this, the creature died, and was soon in the oven; and when it was served up Sina begged the head, took it home with her, and buried it near the stone wall. It grew up into a coconut-tree, and she got her leaves, and mats, and fans, and nuts; and the nuts were marked with the eyes and mouth of her departed eel, whose face she could still touch with hers.

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7/3/2002

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Talofa!!! I would like to share this story...
"O le tala i le Ve'a ma le Tuli"
Sa fa'auo le Ve'a ma le Tuli. Sa nonofo fa'atasi i laua i le fale e tasi. Ona o'o lea i le isi aso, ua fia 'ai i'a le Ve'a. Ona fai atu lea o le Ve'a i le Tuli e la te o e fagogota. Fai mai le Tuli, ua lelei.
Sa o'o loa ina la fagogota, na o le tamo'e atu le Tuli ile aloalo. Ona o'o lea ina utia lona vae e le faisua. A o le Ve'a e fagota e mamao atu te isi. Sa fai loa le tagi o le Tuli e fa'apea, "Ve'a e, Ve'a e, alu ia i lo ta fanua e aumai ai o ni ma'e se lua, se'i tu'i a'i la ta faisua. E 'ai ma oe le fua male sua, ae 'ai ma a'u le tigi faisua."
Sa fa'alogo loa i ai le Ve'a, sa tamo'e mai o ia ma ni ma'a, ua tu'i ai le faisua. Ona la o ai lea i lo la fale ma le faisua. Sa fai loa la la me tausami, ua ave le tigifaisua ma le Ve'a, ae 'ai e le Tuli le fua ma le sua. Ua tiga le loto o le Ve'a, ae sa leai lava sana mea e mafaia.
Ona o'o lea i le tasi aso, sa toe fai fo'i le tonu o le a la o e fagogota. Ua toe fai fo'i le amio e le Tuli o le oso i lea mea ma le mea. ua o'o fo'i ina ua toe utia lona vae i le isi faisua. Toe tagi fo'i le Tuli i lona tagi muamua. Sa fa'alogo mai i ai le Ve'a, a ua le toe alu i ai. Sa alu lava ia gauta i le fale. Ua o'o ina ua sua o le tai, ua mate ai loa le Tuli.
O le mea lena ua le toe fealofani le Ve'a ma le Tuli e o'o mai i le aso nei.

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7/3/2002

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Talofa!!! I would like to share this story...
"O le tala i le Ve'a ma le Tuli"
Sa fa'auo le Ve'a ma le Tuli. Sa nonofo fa'atasi i laua i le fale e tasi. Ona o'o lea i le isi aso, ua fia 'ai i'a le Ve'a. Ona fai atu lea o le Ve'a i le Tuli e la te o e fagogota. Fai mai le Tuli, ua lelei.
Sa o'o loa ina la fagogota, na o le tamo'e atu le Tuli ile aloalo. Ona o'o lea ina utia lona vae e le faisua. A o le Ve'a e fagota e mamao atu te isi. Sa fai loa le tagi o le Tuli e fa'apea, "Ve'a e, Ve'a e, alu ia i lo ta fanua e aumai ai o ni ma'e se lua, se'i tu'i a'i la ta faisua. E 'ai ma oe le fua male sua, ae 'ai ma a'u le tigi faisua."
Sa fa'alogo loa i ai le Ve'a, sa tamo'e mai o ia ma ni ma'a, ua tu'i ai le faisua. Ona la o ai lea i lo la fale ma le faisua. Sa fai loa la la me tausami, ua ave le tigifaisua ma le Ve'a, ae 'ai e le Tuli le fua ma le sua. Ua tiga le loto o le Ve'a, ae sa leai lava sana mea e mafaia.
Ona o'o lea i le tasi aso, sa toe fai fo'i le tonu o le a la o e fagogota. Ua toe fai fo'i le amio e le Tuli o le oso i lea mea ma le mea. ua o'o fo'i ina ua toe utia lona vae i le isi faisua. Toe tagi fo'i le Tuli i lona tagi muamua. Sa fa'alogo mai i ai le Ve'a, a ua le toe alu i ai. Sa alu lava ia gauta i le fale. Ua o'o ina ua sua o le tai, ua mate ai loa le Tuli.
O le mea lena ua le toe fealofani le Ve'a ma le Tuli e o'o mai i le aso nei.

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7/7/2002

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UA TELE TAGATA E SESE LE FAAMATALAINA O LE AIGA TUPU O MALIETOA. LONA NUU, MA ONA AIGA......I WANT SOME INFO ABOUT THAT GENERATION PLEASE IF SOMEBODY KNOW HOLLA BAC ON OUR BOARD......

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7/9/2002

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IA TALOFA LAVA O LENEI TALA E UIGA NI TAGATA SE TO'A LUA O LE TASI E AGAMALU MA LOTO FA'AMAUALALO A'O LE TASI E FIA SILISILI MA LOTO FA'AMAUALUGA E USO I LA UA INA UA FANAU MAI I LA UA AE SA VAVAE ESE INA NEI TAGATA E TO'A LUA ONA OSE MEA UA TUPU ILE TAMA MALE TINA UA AVE ESEINA NEI TAMA I TULIMANU E FA OLE LALOLAGI MA INI MASINA E SO'O AI NA MALILIU O LA MATUA....TAUSAGA UA MAVAE UA FAI AIGA NEI TAMA E TO'A LUA UA FAI AIGA LA FANAU MA FANAU AL FANAU MA FANAU FOI A LA FANAU INA UA TUPU MALO TUPU MA PULEA E NEI TAMA MALO O LO'O PULEA I LA PULEAGA UA A'AVE TALA ILE MALOLOSI O NEI TUPU E TO'ALUA ILE LALOLAGI ATOA ONA MANATU LEA OLE TUPU MALOSI MALE FA'AMAUALUGA E AO ONA IA PULEA LE LALOLAGI ATOA...INA UA O'O TALA LE TUPU LOTO MAUALALO I LENAI TALA ONA FA'ANOANOA AI LEA O LONA LOTO SA IA FA'ALELE SE LUPE SINA MASE FEAU ILE TUPU MALOSI...O UPU A LENEI FEAU....UA E PULEA MEA E TELE I LOU MALOSI AE PAGA LOU FIA SI'I TAU I LO'U MALO UA OU TALI I LOU MANAO AE O LEA OUTE MANAO E TAU NAO I TAUA I LUMA OLE FANUA TAU O O'U OFU TAU E SILIVA MA LAU FUA E PAEPAE TUSI AI LO'U IGOA ILE LANU MUMU...INA UA TU FETA'I NEI TOA I LUGA OLE MAUGA OLE OTI UA FA'ALALA LA AUPEGA INA UA VA'AI MAI LE TUPU MALOSI ILE FU'A A LENEI FITAFITA ONA FESILI AI LEA O OE LENA OLE TUPU FEALOFANI SAMOA I O A'U LENEI ONA MALINI AI LEA O LOIMATA OLE TUPU MALOSI...O A'U LENEI OLE TUPU O FEALOFANI SAMOA II...ONA FA'APEA ATU AI LEA O LANA TALA USO; uso; E LE SILI EA LE NATE PULEA LONA LOTO..ILE TOA NA TE A'EA LE OLO ...ALOFA I OU TINO MA AANO OLE FIGAGALO OLE TAMA ILE LAGI E TU'UA NEI MEA UMA I LALO NEI E SAU ASO AE ALU ASO......ALOFAGA MO OUTOU UMA MAI LE FEALOFANI SAMOA I MALE FEALOFANI SAMOA II..''WE ARE SAMOA IN GOD WE TRUST''...GOD BLESS AND TOFA SOIFUA ALOFA DU U ALL....IN RESPOND TO THE ANGER..AND FIA TAGATA TO ONE ANOTHER.. OLE TOTO E TOTO'O I LE OLE VAI.....TOFA

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7/9/2002

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7/10/2002

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damn everyone arguing up in this mug, damn where did all the love go...what happened to our samoan people...oh well ill pray for yall

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7/14/2002

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the idiot who said the shark and the turtle were the result of an old lady and grandaughter not been able to feed the king jumped in the ocean is utter nonsense!it was a couple,man and woman who did not adhere to the kings wishes therefore runing away to sea only to be seen at a certain time of the day,hence the result of that common phrase that is sung by children of many generations.

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7/14/2002

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7/24/2002

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Malo lava 7/14/02 12:19
You are so right, it is a couple...
O le tala lenei mai le matou aiga o Letuli.

"O le tala i le Maelie male Laumei"
Sa i ai se ulugali'i talavou lava, i ona po ole saua o Malietoa Faiga; na nonofo i le itu i toga o Savai'i o Fonuea, o le igoa o le fafine, ae ua le maua le igoa o lona Tanene.
Ua o'o ina iloa e le Tane o le a fai le aso o le Tupu ia te ia. Sa alofa tele i isi ona to'alua, a e ui i lea ua manatu e sili ona la malaga pea i ai le Tupu, a ia sao le la nu'u.
Ona la o mai lea mai Savai'i i le laua paopao. Ae teiane ua la le taunu'u i Upolu i le mea oi ai le Tupu. Ae ua lelea le la va'a i Tutuila i le matagi. Ona la nonofo ai lea ma le ali'i o Letuli i Ili'ili i ni masina etele.
Sa agalelei tele le ali'i ma lona aiga ia te i laua. O lea ua la faapea ifo i o laua loto, po o le a se mea e taui ai le alofa ma le agalelei o lenei o ali'i ia i laua.
Ona o'o lea ina ua ifo le aso o Malietoa, ona sauni ai lea o le aiga o Letuli o le a toe momoli i laua i le laua aiga i Savai'i. Ona faapea iai ai lea o l tane ia Letuli: "Faafetai tele i lau Susuga ma si o outou aiga mo le tausiga o i maua ma la'u ava. O le a ma le toe fo'i i lo ma nu'u, ae se'i fai sina aoga mo lau Susuga. Malie mai lou finagalo, o le a ma faia se mea e lauiloa ai oe e le lalolagi atoa."
O lea ua la o loa ma feesofi i le papa i Vaitogi i le sami. Ona liu Laumei ai lea o Fonuea, ae liu Malie lana Tane. Na tautala a'e le Malie i tagata o le nu'u: "A outou manao' ina ma o a'e i luga ile fogatai, ia o mai tamaiti ma pepese ai."
O le pese lenei e usu tamaiti:
Laumei faiaga ma sulu ma si au tama, oi ai le moega afa Fa'i mai, fa'i mai o se lauti e aulelei E lavalalava le laumei, Apa e, Laumei Apaapa le Laumei, apa e, Laumei.
Fonuea, Fonuea, laulau mai se mamnamea Po'o sai o i luga nei? O Sa Letuli o i luga nei A uaina, A laina, a solo e mata'ina, Laulautu ia le i'a. Siususu Galu sasa, tama'ita'i, maliu a'e; Susu a'e; le uale; tigitigi mai oe Fa'amata'u mai Samoa; le pu ia manu e. Teuteu le ana le Laumei, ele pu ia manu e.

Talu mai ai e o'o mai i nei ona po ua o atu sa'o tamaiti i le papa maualuga ma pepese ai, i le ua o a'e lava le Malie male Laumei i le fogatai e tusa ma le la folafolaga.

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7/24/2002

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Malo lava 7/14/02 12:19
You are so right, it is a couple...
O le tala lenei mai le matou aiga o Letuli.

"O le tala i le Maelie male Laumei"
Sa i ai se ulugali'i talavou lava, i ona po ole saua o Malietoa Faiga; na nonofo i le itu i toga o Savai'i o Fonuea, o le igoa o le fafine, ae ua le maua le igoa o lona Tanene.
Ua o'o ina iloa e le Tane o le a fai le aso o le Tupu ia te ia. Sa alofa tele i isi ona to'alua, a e ui i lea ua manatu e sili ona la malaga pea i ai le Tupu, a ia sao le la nu'u.
Ona la o mai lea mai Savai'i i le laua paopao. Ae teiane ua la le taunu'u i Upolu i le mea oi ai le Tupu. Ae ua lelea le la va'a i Tutuila i le matagi. Ona la nonofo ai lea ma le ali'i o Letuli i Ili'ili i ni masina etele.
Sa agalelei tele le ali'i ma lona aiga ia te i laua. O lea ua la faapea ifo i o laua loto, po o le a se mea e taui ai le alofa ma le agalelei o lenei o ali'i ia i laua.
Ona o'o lea ina ua ifo le aso o Malietoa, ona sauni ai lea o le aiga o Letuli o le a toe momoli i laua i le laua aiga i Savai'i. Ona faapea iai ai lea o l tane ia Letuli: "Faafetai tele i lau Susuga ma si o outou aiga mo le tausiga o i maua ma la'u ava. O le a ma le toe fo'i i lo ma nu'u, ae se'i fai sina aoga mo lau Susuga. Malie mai lou finagalo, o le a ma faia se mea e lauiloa ai oe e le lalolagi atoa."
O lea ua la o loa ma feesofi i le papa i Vaitogi i le sami. Ona liu Laumei ai lea o Fonuea, ae liu Malie lana Tane. Na tautala a'e le Malie i tagata o le nu'u: "A outou manao' ina ma o a'e i luga ile fogatai, ia o mai tamaiti ma pepese ai."
O le pese lenei e usu tamaiti:
Laumei faiaga ma sulu ma si au tama, oi ai le moega afa Fa'i mai, fa'i mai o se lauti e aulelei E lavalalava le laumei, Apa e, Laumei Apaapa le Laumei, apa e, Laumei.
Fonuea, Fonuea, laulau mai se mamnamea Po'o sai o i luga nei? O Sa Letuli o i luga nei A uaina, A laina, a solo e mata'ina, Laulautu ia le i'a. Siususu Galu sasa, tama'ita'i, maliu a'e; Susu a'e; le uale; tigitigi mai oe Fa'amata'u mai Samoa; le pu ia manu e. Teuteu le ana le Laumei, ele pu ia manu e.
Talu mai ai e o'o mai i nei ona po ua o atu sa'o tamaiti i le papa maualuga ma pepese ai, i le ua o a'e lava le Malie male Laumei i le fogatai e tusa ma le la folafolaga.
Ia manuia le aso!!! God is good all the time!!!
God bless and have a beautiful weekend!!!

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7/24/2002

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Sorry about the spelling of Maelie, should be Malie.
theres also other typo error...
faamagalo!!!

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7/24/2002

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Sorry about the spelling of Maelie, should be Malie.
theres also other typo error...
faamagalo!!!

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7/29/2002

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7/29/2002

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The story of the Sea Turtle and Shark, was told to me by my Mother long ago, as an explanation to why they are seen together swimming around the islands. The version I was told had nothing to do with a "King" but of family negligence in not feeding the "old" and the "young". Of course this goes against Samoan tradition of Aiga.......does anyone else have a different version? this is quite interesting!
My family is from Upolu, Savaii and Tutuila. Pritchard,Tuitama, Sa'mia, Li'u

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7/30/2002

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I too would like to know of Fatu ma Futi..... but please, in english.

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7/30/2002

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I don't know if this will answer all of 6-14-02's questions about the turtle's origin. Back in the 50's the old women in Fagatogo told this story..... Once there was this blind old lady and a very young grandson. She had no living children and he had no parents.They lived alone and were fed by their nearest relatives. Of course there were hard feelings among the aiga towards these two. The old lady was past her prime to be of any help to the aiga and blind ontop of that. The grandson was good for nothing because of his age. Why should we feed them? This was always asked among the families. One day, later than usual, prepared chicken was brought up to their fale. By then the grandson was so hungry he almost ate before his grandmother asked " Why does it smell different?". At a closer look, the boy said with tears" Grandmother, it's a cooked rat!" The grandmother gathered her tapa cloth around her and prayed to the gods to protect her and her grandson. She took him to the cliffs nearby and said to him " There will always be food for you, my son and I will always be with you". They jumped from the cliffs and when they touched the ocean, the boy changed into the shark and the old lady into the sea turtle. The turtle carries her tapa cloth markings and the shark is always eating. When you spot one, the other is not far away........Yes, the turtle is a woman's charm as you can see in our earrings, bracelets and necklace. This is the story I grew up hearing even after I left Samoa. My mother always repeated this tale to us all......Does anyone have another?

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7/30/2002

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The turtle has a noticable tapa pattern. Naturally that's where we copied it from. The word Makua referring to elderly woman? Hey, when did we aquire the letter K in our alphabet? What is the letters in the alphabet.......sorry for my ignorance, so please enlighten me

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7/30/2002

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From: ~*~!§$u3§~*~
For Everyone,
You knoe, to tell you the truth, this is my first time here in this web site. I was searching for some Samoa Reicpe's to cook for this up coming trip to go see my family in LA. But to see everyone use the word "UFA", I just wanted everyone to knoe that the word ufa is not even that strong to tell you the truth. There are more worst words than this. Boi, I'm telling you the truth, these words, ufa, kefe, fufu, kai, and ai'kai aren't "bad words" and for those who knoe the real bad words, should knoe the truth about everything. My parents, both are from both sides. Amerika and Western so all I can say is, there is no diffrence between Amerika and Western samoa because both of dem are: SAMOA. Samoa is one. Get Dat Shit Straight. Other den dat, stop dah gossip because no one wants to hear it. If you post a story, post a story, don't make it worse by making other people mad. If you think dah story is wrong, you re-write it the way you heard it. Dah story will never end. Just like dah Bible, dah bible goes on and on and on. You'll never knoe dah truth. That's why their are so many churches. It's because too much gossip and disagreements. Be some real samoans and stop dah shit talkin. How bout dat. Dis ain't no 2 cent of mine. Dis is reality......Samoa is supposed to be the pearl of the pacific. We're supposed to be the happiest island in the whole pacific ocean, so don't show this kind of attitude and mess things up. Show polynesia that we're better than that. This is for those who abused this sight by cursing and for those who said, "your wrong dis your wrong dat", be a real samoa and roll your ie lava lava up alittle more. Shutting dah door on all yall......Dayum.......gone
LoVe dAh OnE aNd OnLy:dAt OnE cRaZy GuRL ~*~!§$u3§~*~
ps. you got's somefing to say to meeh, e-mayo meeh samoanz_stb@hotmail.com or issues1oner@yahoo.com. "E O a'u ole samoa a e"

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7/31/2002

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Does anyone know the names of the old gods and how we they worshiped? Christianity only reached the islands in early 1800's. What was our religion before?......Was Tongaloa one of them? Come on now, start asking the old people, they might remember old stories.

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7/31/2002

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11:07:23 AM

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Request to 7-14-02, Malo lava.......please retell that tale in english. Tried to follow in samoan but my translation is not doing full justice to the story. I've lived out here in palagi land (Illinois) so long that english now is my 1st language. Yes I know, its terrible to lose one's heritage and samoan language is very colorful.... E pala ma'a, 'ae le pala'upu.....did I say it right? Samoan2

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8/1/2002

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How did the LILOMAEAVA title come about? Is there a story behind it? (Sorry if error in spelling.) Surely there's an interesting story behind all the titles floating around Samoa, especially after this month's big debate!!! If there is a story, it belongs on this page and should be shared. Different versions are always welcomed when seeking information on cultures, it helps in understanding the "phsych". This is a perfect opportunity for us all, to print out these stories to share with next generation. REMEMBER, THIS IS MYTHS AND LEGENDS, not a fact finding document!
History Buff

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8/1/2002

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8/5/2002

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Listern!!! This is for all you uneducated people that are using this net to air out your frustration of(FIA SAMOAN). You might ask how I know this, that your'e an uneducated people? Well because if you were a true Samoan, you would have never open your mouth and allowed your stupid self to discuss our beautiful Samoan Legends the way you people did. My advise, TOE FOI E MAFUTA MA MATUA.

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8/5/2002

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Listern!!! This is for all you uneducated people that are using this net to air out your frustration of(FIA SAMOAN). You might ask how I know this, that your'e an uneducated people? Well because if you were a true Samoan, you would have never open your mouth and allowed your stupid self to discuss our beautiful Samoan Legends the way you people did. My advise, TOE FOI E MAFUTA MA MATUA.

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8/5/2002

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8/5/2002

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8/6/2002

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this is exactly why the generation x isnt allowed e maoga i luga le mouth i fono a toeaiina, i fono a matai.... too much lapisi... ia o legei ma le ga... dis and dat... all rubbish... if you are frustrated ....frustaration... please look for a frustarted people site where you can unload all this destructive rubbish coz i for one dont want to read it.... people with no brains talk about people... critics.... hypocrites.... people with brains talk about ideaz.... yes ideaz... very constructive....how to make samoa a better place... to raise the standard of living of the malo people..... how to become a better person... why am i always frustrated..... why i always what where how when and so on...... eu muamua le utupoto o lou mata ona eu ai lea o le utupoto o le mata o leisi ou uso a tagata..

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8/6/2002

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about our old gods.... it was prophesised that a new god will arrive to samoa.... and that our people will worship that god and that god is our present heavenly father..... IEOVA... tagaloalagi was just a god that our people made up when they arrived in samoa from somewhere thought as south east asia or where ever..... a part of our culture and it was through our culture that we now have SAMOA.... e faavae i le ATUA samoa./... samoa is founded on GOD and i am so pround that we are founded on god.... trust me i had the same thoughts too but then i realised that we have only occupied the islands for some time and its ours but....there is only one true god and i have only one true savioour and that is Jesus.... dont say youre a samoan and youre not founded on god coz the old wise men of samoa chose god ...IEOVA..... to be our god... it was prophessised and here we are..... love one another and trust in god and everything will be sek reli.... enjoy and trust in god... think a minute....
hamohart007@yahoo.com

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8/7/2002

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Thanks for data 8-6-02....about the old gods. The few individuals who insist on name calling should do us all a BIG favor and STAY OFF this page.

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8/7/2002

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Thank you (hamohart007)for your insight about the old gods. Would anyone else like to give an input?

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8/7/2002

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Thank you (hamohart007)for your insight about the old gods. Would anyone else like to give an input?

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8/7/2002

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10:05:32 AM

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WHERE ARE THE STORIES?????

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8/8/2002

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Interested in hearing about our beginnings, not what is now but what was before us. Do you realize how vast the Pacific Ocean looks? And to sail in a rigger canoe to settle on these islands, quite a feat even with modern technology.

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8/10/2002

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Out of all the traditions, I have yet to understand the individuality of the SIVA. Everything else is done in conformity to a group, even our art has no individuality away from the other islands. Like our ava bowl designs can be found among the Fijians or our weaving among the Micronians, Tongans our Tapas. I guess we're the only ones doing the fine mats......

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8/11/2002

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Responding to 8-5-02, contraction of "you are" is "you're"! 8-6-02, you need a social science page and leave generation X to themselves!

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8/11/2002

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4:16:20 PM

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It's always interesting how samoans take palagi's at their word and completely the opposite to each other. You put the effort forward to a foreigner that you never give your own kind!!! That's why you end up getting the likes of Margaret Mead, Roger Green and Mormons writing as if they are the authority on SAMOANS......okay, are we Fijian Melanesian descendants or not??

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8/13/2002

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9:25:18 PM

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is it true that the "ulua'i tumua" is from Alepata.

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8/14/2002

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4:59:52 PM

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Where's the Samoan Myths & Legends?
Do we have sssoooo much hate for each other that we have to take every comments to heart?
It's sad that people think that we're the one of the most friendlist and happiest people, but in reality we're really not.
Let's try to stick to the topic.. Samoan Myths & Legends not Samoan Hateful & Disrespectful!!!!

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8/18/2002

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1:19:44 PM

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Nearly three thousand years ago, the the Samoan Islands were settled. It wasn't until the early 1820's that christianity came in the form of missionaries. Yes, just like Mitchell's "Hawaii"! Now, if there's a historian out there who might also be into theology, how did samoans view and practice religion?

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8/18/2002

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1:24:33 PM

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P.S. OOPS! My question was meant for the time BEFORE, missionaries came in 1822.

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8/19/2002

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7:47:42 PM

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Could you please help me i'm looking for infomation about Tamafinga the King of Samoa, around 1818 to 1829, 1830 the Tyrant,all aroun bad guy.I here one story and it goes he was killed by a passing group of warriors then the people of Manono say he was killed by his aigai the people of his Island why the difference and please no bad words thank you

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8/20/2002

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i died

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8/20/2002

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9:02:35 PM

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I would like to know what happened to my question about Tamafinga, dose any one now any thing about him thank you

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8/20/2002

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9:03:06 PM

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I would like to know what happened to my question about Le Tamafinga, dose any one now any thing about him thank you

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8/22/2002

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Reply about Tama'figa.....the version I was told is similar to your second. The story is he wanted to dine on one of the children in the village. Assuming it was one of his relatives, since it was the young men of the village that killed him for such a request!.......Does anyone know for sure the truth of his death?......My family from Tutuila passed this story around. The Upolu part of my family didn't speak of him.

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8/22/2002

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10:35:39 AM

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In the smaller islands cannibalism was practiced, it was out-lawed during the time of King Maloe'tua, who also banished the Tongans from Samoa and their influence, he greastest achievement was in uniting the samoan islands.

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8/22/2002

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10:52:32 AM

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I too, am interested in any info about the "island Gods" before the conversion to Christianity. No one wants to discuss anything before 1830, or in a very sadden case, no one knows???

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8/22/2002

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MY FATHER TOOK HIS LILOMAIAVA TITLE TO THE GRAVE. WE STILL HAVE ONE BROTHER IN UPOLU WHO TOOK OVER FOR DAD. I ASSUME ITS A TITLE ONE EARNS AND NOT PASSED ON.....AM I RIGHT? .....FROM STATESIDE

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8/22/2002

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To: 8/22 10:35 sorry but Samoa has never had a King Maloe'tua. Neither has there been a united Samoa.

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8/23/2002

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Okay, the spelling is off......Malietoa???.... But it was he, who united the chiefs from the western islands to defeat the Tongans out of Samoa. If you were referring to American Samoa and Western Samoa...I wasn't!....Cannibalism was also put down by this same King, all before the first papalagi saw the samoan islands.......

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8/23/2002

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2:31:45 PM

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Okay, the spelling is off......Malietoa???.... But it was he, who united the chiefs from the western islands to defeat the Tongans out of Samoa. If you were referring to American Samoa and Western Samoa...I wasn't!....Cannibalism was also put down by this same King, all before the first papalagi saw the samoan islands.......

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8/25/2002

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2:22:32 PM

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Long, long ago, there was a king who owned chickens that was Forbidden to be eaten by anyone. Another king coveted those chickens and stole them. The first king persued the second all the way to the 12th heaven. To honor the first king's determination of the chase, the islands were named Sa'Moa......... Forbidden Chicken........We could have ended up with Holy Chicken!!!ha ha ha

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8/25/2002

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Long, long ago, there was a king who owned chickens that was Forbidden to be eaten by anyone. Another king coveted those chickens and stole them. The first king persued the second all the way to the 12th heaven. To honor the first king's determination of the chase, the islands were named Sa'Moa......... Forbidden Chicken........We could have ended up with Holy Chicken!!!ha ha ha.....Is there another version to this story?.....Apelu

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8/25/2002

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Can anyone explain the CANNIBALISM?....Was it ceremonial or just a common practice?...U2

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8/27/2002

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Hey, that's a pretty cool story of how our islands were named.........that close to being "Holy Chicken"!?!.....There's got to be another story out there of how we got our name......anyone?

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8/28/2002

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I don't know about you, but I don't really feel that my people's origins were because of Chickens. I like to believe that Samoa comes from a family that has ties in Manu'a. It sounds more HUMAN if you ask me.

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8/28/2002

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I am sorry, but I still believe that there never was a united Samoa. Even after Malietoa, the islands of Manu'a never paid homeage to a Malietoa. How do you explain that? Furthermore, how do you explain the claim that Tuimanu'a was once the king of all Polynesia?

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8/29/2002

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Manu'a is not one of the western islands,and surmising from what the old people say, every interputation depends on which island one is from. Even this column shows how different the lengends were told. King of all of Polynesia?........???

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8/29/2002

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Homage or not, we still have the Malietoa's as our King and Head of State.......and, we are a Free and Independent Country!

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8/29/2002

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The story of the forbidden chickens was to honor the EXTENT of the CHASE, not explain our origins! but the NAME!.....Translate the word SAMOA and you'll see.

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8/29/2002

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1:14:23 PM

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I think cannibalism was still practiced in the early 19th century........I could be wrong....I hope I am.

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8/29/2002

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1:58:28 PM

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Tuimanu'a is a very high title indeed. But consider all the kings from the different islands. Who paid homage to whom? Upolu, Savaii, Apolima and Manono(all Western Samoa) were the ones united to battle the Tongans out of Samoa. Upolu is where this Malietoa started the battle cry to unite. Of course when I typed Samoa, I meant Western Samoa!

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8/29/2002

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Sure of course they united to oust the Tongans out of the islands. But what you fail to remember is that the Tongans never occupied Manu'a. Why do you think that is? I am sorry don't try to down play the importance and sacredness of the Tuimanu'a titles. Besides, there are titles in Upolu, Savaii and Apolima that are older and much more important than the Malietoa title. However, foreign influence has been able to manipulate our thinking to make them inferior.

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8/30/2002

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What you fail to remember...8-29-02, 6:02:52 PM... is that, you are the only one bringing up Manu'a. Is there a point to this? The islands that were involved have already been named by 8-29-02, 1:58:28 PM. You're right about foreign influence, they made you an american samoan.

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8/30/2002

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Tutuila is a 3 hr. ferry ride and Manu'a twice as far east and much smaller. Could be why the Tongans didn't bother But hey, we're getting away from what this page is all about. That story of the holy chickens,(that's amusing)confirms there were chickens on the islands back then, so why the cannabilism?

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8/30/2002

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Samoa is the heart of Polynesia, we were the Begining! Artifacts dug up from our islands shows nearly 3000 yrs of settlement. Hawaii nor Tahiti or Tonga as well as New Zealand polynesians can prove any later dates than ours. The person who wrote King of all Polynesia has got me stumped? Maybe you mean among the islands of Ofu, Olosega and Tau and maybe even Tutuila? While arguing your case, try not to down grade any titles. You've insulted the Malietoa's title. I believe the Tuimanu'a titles are among our highest But you've besmirched it with this type arguement!!!

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8/31/2002

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When Western Samoa was fighting the Tongans, why wasn't this king of all polynesia in on the battle?.....was he Fijian?.....maybe Tongan? The Malietoa's are still here, and has guided Western Samoa into this millineum, as an Independent Country. Where are the others???.....and mind you, Malietoa is a very ancient title!!!

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8/31/2002

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1:10:30 PM

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Back to the how Samoa was named. You know, that's the only story I know of that explains how our islands were named. The chase took those kings to the 12th level of the heavens. My father explained that the word Sa is closely translated into the word Forbidden. On Sunday you are forbidden to work, so the word Sa. Of course Moa is chicken. I too eas afraid it was Holy Chicken.....

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